0000957: Indestructible tanks

(0002029)
RedPhoenix (developer)
2015-08-24 13:36

Hits from?

Grenades?
Small Arms Fire?
Tank Rounds?
ATGMs?
Rockets?

Which tanks?

(0002031)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-25 11:46

@MajorLatency I think you dont know how real armor works, and armor in RHS mod works very similar. Armor on vanilla tanks is crap, and unrealistic box system. No matter where you hit, allways tank is destroyed. In RHS, armor is calculated in proper way ( plus minus ) and integrated with vehicle model, so all part of the vehicle have diferent armor value. In arma 3 vanilla vehicles there are just parts showed on damage diagram (turret, hull, engine, tracks) and thats all. Even strategy "Men of War" is better made in this aspect.

(0002034)
MajorLatency (reporter)
2015-08-25 17:00

@Bad Tankman We are not debating if the hit point system or value calculations in Arma3 are correct. Your personal commentary on Arma3's tanks damage system is irrelevant. RHS is aware of the problem as I mentioned above. For tanks to be able to take at least 10 direct hits from the main gun of a US tank without being totally destroyed - clearly there is something wrong (extended armor off on all clients in a MP game). Unless you think that Russian tanks have depleted uranium hulls etc. RHS is still in it's early stages of development for A3. And btw this is not some debating system. Perhaps you should hang around the Arma3 feedback tracker - you'll find lots of people you can harass there.

(0002035)
RedPhoenix (developer)
2015-08-25 17:01

Still, you have NOT anwered any on my points.

(0002036)
MajorLatency (reporter)
2015-08-25 17:23

@RedPhoenix please close this ticket and delete my account - thanks.

(0002037)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-25 17:25

Please MajorLatency answer what RedPhoneix asked you so we can help you.

Tanks in real life have a lot of designs and mechanisms to avoid damage. They have weaknesses, but obviously if you use for instance an ATGM against the frontal armor of a tank it will be able to bear a good amount of them (Specially with reactive armor and others).

If you use the same ATGM against the top of the turret (the weakest point) then you can neutralize it with a single shot.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-08-24 11:52	MajorLatency	New Issue
2015-08-24 13:36	RedPhoenix	Note Added: 0002029
2015-08-24 14:56	MistyRonin	Assigned To	=> RedPhoenix
2015-08-24 14:56	MistyRonin	Status	new => feedback
2015-08-24 15:36	RedPhoenix	Assigned To	RedPhoenix =>
2015-08-25 11:46	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0002031
2015-08-25 17:00	MajorLatency	Note Added: 0002034
2015-08-25 17:00	MajorLatency	Status	feedback => new
2015-08-25 17:01	RedPhoenix	Note Added: 0002035
2015-08-25 17:23	MajorLatency	Note Added: 0002036
2015-08-25 17:25	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0002037
2015-08-25 17:25	MistyRonin	Status	new => feedback
2015-08-25 17:25	MistyRonin	Priority	high => normal
2015-08-25 17:25	MistyRonin	Severity	major => tweak
2015-08-25 17:25	MistyRonin	Reproducibility	N/A => unable to reproduce
2015-09-13 20:59	Soul_Assassin	Status	feedback => resolved
2015-09-13 20:59	Soul_Assassin	Fixed in Version	=> 0.3.9
2015-09-13 20:59	Soul_Assassin	Resolution	open => fixed
2015-09-13 20:59	Soul_Assassin	Assigned To	=> Soul_Assassin

Notes
(0002029) RedPhoenix (developer) 2015-08-24 13:36	Hits from? Grenades? Small Arms Fire? Tank Rounds? ATGMs? Rockets? Which tanks?

(0002031) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-25 11:46	@MajorLatency I think you dont know how real armor works, and armor in RHS mod works very similar. Armor on vanilla tanks is crap, and unrealistic box system. No matter where you hit, allways tank is destroyed. In RHS, armor is calculated in proper way ( plus minus ) and integrated with vehicle model, so all part of the vehicle have diferent armor value. In arma 3 vanilla vehicles there are just parts showed on damage diagram (turret, hull, engine, tracks) and thats all. Even strategy "Men of War" is better made in this aspect.

(0002034) MajorLatency (reporter) 2015-08-25 17:00	@Bad Tankman We are not debating if the hit point system or value calculations in Arma3 are correct. Your personal commentary on Arma3's tanks damage system is irrelevant. RHS is aware of the problem as I mentioned above. For tanks to be able to take at least 10 direct hits from the main gun of a US tank without being totally destroyed - clearly there is something wrong (extended armor off on all clients in a MP game). Unless you think that Russian tanks have depleted uranium hulls etc. RHS is still in it's early stages of development for A3. And btw this is not some debating system. Perhaps you should hang around the Arma3 feedback tracker - you'll find lots of people you can harass there.

(0002035) RedPhoenix (developer) 2015-08-25 17:01	Still, you have NOT anwered any on my points.

(0002036) MajorLatency (reporter) 2015-08-25 17:23	@RedPhoenix please close this ticket and delete my account - thanks.

(0002037) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-25 17:25	Please MajorLatency answer what RedPhoneix asked you so we can help you. Tanks in real life have a lot of designs and mechanisms to avoid damage. They have weaknesses, but obviously if you use for instance an ATGM against the frontal armor of a tank it will be able to bear a good amount of them (Specially with reactive armor and others). If you use the same ATGM against the top of the turret (the weakest point) then you can neutralize it with a single shot.

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