0005555: Unrealistically poor accuracy from 7.62x39mm AKs

(0010420)
PuFu (administrator)
2020-03-25 20:31

7+ moa sounds way off, try without any other mods besides RHS, ACE included, and do that test yourself, you can even disable sway altogether so it has zero effect on aim

(0010423)
military_mat (reporter)
2020-03-25 22:30

Screenshot for reference. I only used ACE, CBA, and RHSAFRF.

(0010831)
Ivanowicz (reporter)
2020-07-02 02:34

Tested with RHS only - the dispersion values shown by ACE seem to be correct, at least when looking at the 7.62x39mm guns through config viewer (unless I'm missing some other value that influences accuracy). The dispersion is set to 0.0021 for all fire modes, and according to the BI wiki 1 mil = 0.001 dispersion, which seems to give us pretty much exactly 7.2 MOA.

(0010833)
battleshipfree (reporter)
2020-07-02 14:51

That incredibly high dispersion values for 7.62 AKs might be for balance purposes, since RHS needs this 7.2 MOA to prevent poor-trained AIs with AKMs from doing headshots. Just consider this as lacking proper maintenance (well, R.I.P AK-103/104).

(0010873)
Ivanowicz (reporter)
2020-07-24 13:46

I would really hope that's not the case (I think PuFu makes it rather clear that it shouldn't be), but if it was I would prefer for mission makers to be able to specify the shooters skill, instead of it being gun dependant. And as you said, RIP any more modern 7.62x39 guns.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2020-03-25 20:09	military_mat	New Issue
2020-03-25 20:31	PuFu	Note Added: 0010420
2020-03-25 20:31	PuFu	Status	new => closed
2020-03-25 20:31	PuFu	Assigned To	=> PuFu
2020-03-25 20:31	PuFu	Resolution	open => no change required
2020-03-25 22:29	military_mat	File Added: 20200325162438_1.jpg
2020-03-25 22:30	military_mat	Note Added: 0010423
2020-07-02 02:34	Ivanowicz	Note Added: 0010831
2020-07-02 14:51	battleshipfree	Note Added: 0010833
2020-07-24 13:46	Ivanowicz	Note Added: 0010873

Notes
(0010420) PuFu (administrator) 2020-03-25 20:31	7+ moa sounds way off, try without any other mods besides RHS, ACE included, and do that test yourself, you can even disable sway altogether so it has zero effect on aim

(0010423) military_mat (reporter) 2020-03-25 22:30	Screenshot for reference. I only used ACE, CBA, and RHSAFRF.

(0010831) Ivanowicz (reporter) 2020-07-02 02:34	Tested with RHS only - the dispersion values shown by ACE seem to be correct, at least when looking at the 7.62x39mm guns through config viewer (unless I'm missing some other value that influences accuracy). The dispersion is set to 0.0021 for all fire modes, and according to the BI wiki 1 mil = 0.001 dispersion, which seems to give us pretty much exactly 7.2 MOA.

(0010833) battleshipfree (reporter) 2020-07-02 14:51	That incredibly high dispersion values for 7.62 AKs might be for balance purposes, since RHS needs this 7.2 MOA to prevent poor-trained AIs with AKMs from doing headshots. Just consider this as lacking proper maintenance (well, R.I.P AK-103/104).

(0010873) Ivanowicz (reporter) 2020-07-24 13:46	I would really hope that's not the case (I think PuFu makes it rather clear that it shouldn't be), but if it was I would prefer for mission makers to be able to specify the shooters skill, instead of it being gun dependant. And as you said, RIP any more modern 7.62x39 guns.

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