0000513: AH-1Z radar - RHS Feedback

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(0001178) asteliks (reporter) 2015-04-20 22:29 edited on: 2015-04-21 19:09	what your saying is crap. Without a search/track system AH-1Z wouldn't be able to use hellfire Air-to-surface missiles and the AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles. Here is a link to a list of vehicles that use this type of radar: www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/jetds/an-apg.html AN/APG-78 is used in AH-1Z and the TSS

(0001195) Floydii (reporter) 2015-04-21 15:45	Asteliks, You probably should check your facts from more than one source prior to telling people they are talking crap. Bottom line up front: the AH-1Z as portrayed by RHS is the more common version not equipped with a target aquisition/tracking radar of any sort. The AH-1Z does not require a radar to utilise the versions of the AGM-114 and AIM-9 it is fitted with in the game. Explanation: First, your reference states the following reference the AN/APG-78 "underwing on AH-1W/Z". This is technically correct, though it occupies a pod attached to one underwing weapon pylon and this is not modeled in the RHS version of the AH-1Z. Another proposed mounting option is this: http://eaglet.skr.jp/MILITARY/PICTURE/AH-1CRS.jpg [^] .. That is not modeled either. What you see in game is a non-radar version of the AH-1Z. It is the same as modelling an AH-64D Apache with the radar mast removed. Second, multiple aircraft with no search/track radars utilise both the AGM-114 Hellfire ATGM and AIM-9 Sidewinder AAM. With two specific exceptions neither require a radar to be employed. Those exceptions are the AGM-114L Millimeter Wave Radar variant of the Hellfire (as employed on the radar equipped AH-64D Apache Longbow) and the AIM-9B/C Sidewinder which utilised semi-active radar homing rather than the more common Infra-Red method (and was phased out over 30 years ago). Based on the 3D Models and the abstracted behaviour of the weapons in ARMA3, the AH-1Z modeled by RHS most likely uses the AGM-114K (Semi Active Laser Homing) and the AIM-9M/X. Neither of these missiles require a Radar to acquire, or track a target. Check your facts mate.

(0001200) asteliks (reporter) 2015-04-21 19:04	indeed you are correct but only with the lack of a modeled wing radar in the mod. Every helicopter missile needs a search/tracking system and that is a fact. Don't forget that the TSS displays it's data like a radar with minor exceptions.

(0001201) asteliks (reporter) 2015-04-21 19:07	Moreover you are obligated to present a trustworthy source when creating a feedback report.

(0001213) Floydii (reporter) 2015-04-21 23:54	Show me a source that says the AH-64A, OH-58D, MD-500 or ARH Tiger either A) have a search/track radar fitted or B) need one to launch missiles at targets. Truth is that you won't. There are multiple methods of guidance for Helicopter launched missiles and a lot of those don't require radar. Yes, SOME helicopters may be fitted with Radars, but many are not. The version of the AH-1Z in RHS is not fitted with a radar and its real-life counterpart works perfectly fine without said radar.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-04-20 15:20	TECAK	New Issue
2015-04-20 22:29	asteliks	Note Added: 0001178
2015-04-21 15:45	Floydii	Note Added: 0001195
2015-04-21 19:04	asteliks	Note Added: 0001200
2015-04-21 19:07	asteliks	Note Added: 0001201
2015-04-21 19:09	asteliks	Note Edited: 0001178	View Revisions
2015-04-21 23:54	Floydii	Note Added: 0001213
2015-05-16 02:48	Soul_Assassin	Relationship added	duplicate of 0000612
2015-05-16 02:48	Soul_Assassin	Status	new => closed
2015-05-16 02:49	Soul_Assassin	Assigned To	=> Soul_Assassin
2015-05-16 02:49	Soul_Assassin	Resolution	open => duplicate