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0004701USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2018-10-24 03:052018-10-24 19:52
Reporterblamwhocares 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
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Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0004701: AH-1Z Gunner Camera
DescriptionCurrently, the gunners camera has 3 zoom modes. 1x, 2x, and 3x. If you are in 1x, nothing occurs. If you are in 2x or 3x zoom mode, there is an automatic gimballed system that activates as a tool in the airframe. What this does is basically tracks a point on the ground. You simply move the camera over a point of interest, let go of the mouse, and it will follow that fixed location with ease. However, there are a few major flaws with this system despite it's ingenuity.
Steps To ReproduceMajor Flaw 1: This is the primary flaw. Essentially, when you let go of your mouse (or whatever you are using to control the camera), it takes a brief moment before the gimballed mode turns on. This becomes very frustrating to deal with as we are attempting to engage targets while we ourselves are moving, and letting go of the mouse would result with the camera stopping at a position where it was not intended. As a result, we are forced to lead the target and hope our cameras land where intended.

Major Flaw 2: While Flaw 1 is noticed, it's necessary to add that moving targets on the ground are also very difficult to deal with because we cannot lock onto targets and follow the targets individually. It becomes very frustrating to deal with while we are trying to pinpoint our laser onto a target that is on the move. F-35B Lightning II's have a system similar to what is required for such a task, which allows the camera to follow any vehicle.
Additional InformationWith this all being said, my solution would be to integrate the system F-35B Lightning II's, as well as other similar airframes, have in their airframe into the AH-1Z. The system uses a Ctrl+T keybinding known as "stabalize turret" (under weapons) which will allow us to turn on and off a camera area/point mode. Area mode causes the camera to hold on any given position, and it is instant rather than having a delay like the current gimballed mode has. The Point mode basically turns on when the camera is near a target on the ground, and will track it as such.

Essentially, the current airframe has a "prototype" area mode like the vanilla birds have, but lack the ability to track targets and has a delay before enabling.
TagsNo tags attached.
Is it a wish/request?No
RHS version
Arma 3 version1.84
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
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(0008712)
reyhard (administrator)
2018-10-24 09:02

While I appreciate feedback I think most players praise turret stabilization. Pilot camera CTRL+T ground/point lock is limited only to pilot turrets and cannot be applied to gunner turret because of how engine is handling that. Delay between stabilization is also vanilla "feature" & any changes to it would require engine changes we, as a mod, are not able to deliver.

ps. There is no F35 neither in RHS or vanilla game so bringing something like doesn't have any sense at all.
(0008715)
blamwhocares (reporter)
2018-10-24 19:52

Our F35 then, I wasn't aware it wasn't in RHS. That was my bad.

That makes sense regarding the pilot camera. Is it possible to refine the turret stabilization to be more responsive to the camera's halt in movement? And is it possible to implement something similar to locking onto targets?

In addition, if any of my guys found a way to do so, may we have permission to integrate this into our birds and push this feature your way? Or is that not desirable to you?

Thanks.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2018-10-24 03:05 blamwhocares New Issue
2018-10-24 09:02 reyhard Note Added: 0008712
2018-10-24 09:02 reyhard Status new => closed
2018-10-24 09:02 reyhard Assigned To => reyhard
2018-10-24 09:02 reyhard Resolution open => no change required
2018-10-24 19:52 blamwhocares Note Added: 0008715


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