0002102: T-72/T-90 vs TOW - Tweak required.

(0004344)
Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-01 20:36

I think change is required, as TOW can disable all T tanks with one shot in front.

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Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-01 20:40
edited on: 2016-05-01 20:42

http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-ze-swiata,2/zdjecie-t-90-trafionego-tow-rosyjskie-czolgi-w-syrii,630925.html [^]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rfyeR-YaJw [^]

^^^^^^^T-90

https://southfront.org/another-t-90-survives-a-missile-hit-in-syria/ [^]

^^^^T-90A

Conclusion - Kontakt 5 can stop the TOW.

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reyhard (administrator)
2016-05-01 22:03

rhs kontakt 5 also stop tow

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Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-02 11:00
edited on: 2016-05-02 11:33

It doesnt
Look at attached pictures.
In some cases i didnt destroyed tank by shoting its hull, but it was 3/9 examples (restared test). By shooting in turret i destry tank every time.
I'm uploading video from new shitty recorder, so quality wont be the best. It looks like the armor (not era) is too weak. I can destroy T-72B3 with shooting even in era on turret - it allways blows, i can do the same with T-90 in shtora emiter (in syria it was hitted above, in standard armor and it survives) and it blows, in T-90A the same and it blows. So standard armor must be harder. It Survives hit in Syria and its prooven.

Video ready :
https://youtu.be/fLHYwo8jyIY [^]

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reyhard (administrator)
2016-05-02 11:40

armor is ok. we won't change anything here

(0004350)
Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-02 11:43

Not is isnt ok, check video once again i added subtitles.

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Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-02 11:51
edited on: 2016-05-02 12:01

So in Conclusion - Kontakt 5 is working somehow on T-90A (in 50% of its force), should work in T-90 (around 10% of its force) and DO NOT WORK on B3. When missle hit right next to kontakt, it have no chance to penetrate armor, beacuse kontakt is exploding. Its explosion force is neutralising threat power, so damage to armor is minimal or even there isnt any. Now only reasonable options to apply this into the arma engine are (one to choose):
- Decrease power of TOW
- Increase armor on T Tanks turrets
- Modify ERA systems, so their explosion would make penetration impossible, even if missle hitted next to it (condition of decreasing penetration force should be explosion of era)
One more time look how T-90 (1992) look after hit (note same turret on T-72B3)
http://cdn.warisboring.com/images/20160328052428/t_907.jpg [^]

(0004352)
reyhard (administrator)
2016-05-02 12:10

are you deaf?

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Michalm1393 (viewer)
2016-05-02 12:18
edited on: 2016-05-02 12:19

I tought you were speaking this mod is about realism, but yeah i was deaf. If its clearly visible that i'm right and everybody including you know how K-5 works, why you are keeping saying this is working good? Specially in case of B3 change its obviously required

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reyhard (administrator)
2016-05-02 12:20

hope you get cured soon because such behaviour may lead to another ban for you

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2016-05-01 17:56	Michalm1393	New Issue
2016-05-01 17:57	Michalm1393	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2016-05-01 18:46	reyhard	Status	new => closed
2016-05-01 18:46	reyhard	Assigned To	=> reyhard
2016-05-01 18:46	reyhard	Resolution	open => no change required
2016-05-01 20:36	Michalm1393	Note Added: 0004344
2016-05-01 20:40	Michalm1393	Note Added: 0004345
2016-05-01 20:42	Michalm1393	Note Edited: 0004345	View Revisions
2016-05-01 20:45	Michalm1393	Summary	Please increase armor of T-72B and T-90 => T-72/T-90 vs TOW - Tweak required.
2016-05-01 20:45	Michalm1393	Description Updated	View Revisions
2016-05-01 22:03	reyhard	Note Added: 0004346
2016-05-02 11:00	Michalm1393	Note Added: 0004348
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Notes
(0004344) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-01 20:36	I think change is required, as TOW can disable all T tanks with one shot in front.

(0004345) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-01 20:40 edited on: 2016-05-01 20:42	http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-ze-swiata,2/zdjecie-t-90-trafionego-tow-rosyjskie-czolgi-w-syrii,630925.html [^] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rfyeR-YaJw [^] ^^^^^^^T-90 https://southfront.org/another-t-90-survives-a-missile-hit-in-syria/ [^] ^^^^T-90A Conclusion - Kontakt 5 can stop the TOW.

(0004346) reyhard (administrator) 2016-05-01 22:03	rhs kontakt 5 also stop tow

(0004348) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-02 11:00 edited on: 2016-05-02 11:33	It doesnt Look at attached pictures. In some cases i didnt destroyed tank by shoting its hull, but it was 3/9 examples (restared test). By shooting in turret i destry tank every time. I'm uploading video from new shitty recorder, so quality wont be the best. It looks like the armor (not era) is too weak. I can destroy T-72B3 with shooting even in era on turret - it allways blows, i can do the same with T-90 in shtora emiter (in syria it was hitted above, in standard armor and it survives) and it blows, in T-90A the same and it blows. So standard armor must be harder. It Survives hit in Syria and its prooven. Video ready : https://youtu.be/fLHYwo8jyIY [^]

(0004349) reyhard (administrator) 2016-05-02 11:40	armor is ok. we won't change anything here

(0004350) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-02 11:43	Not is isnt ok, check video once again i added subtitles.

(0004351) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-02 11:51 edited on: 2016-05-02 12:01	So in Conclusion - Kontakt 5 is working somehow on T-90A (in 50% of its force), should work in T-90 (around 10% of its force) and DO NOT WORK on B3. When missle hit right next to kontakt, it have no chance to penetrate armor, beacuse kontakt is exploding. Its explosion force is neutralising threat power, so damage to armor is minimal or even there isnt any. Now only reasonable options to apply this into the arma engine are (one to choose): - Decrease power of TOW - Increase armor on T Tanks turrets - Modify ERA systems, so their explosion would make penetration impossible, even if missle hitted next to it (condition of decreasing penetration force should be explosion of era) One more time look how T-90 (1992) look after hit (note same turret on T-72B3) http://cdn.warisboring.com/images/20160328052428/t_907.jpg [^]

(0004352) reyhard (administrator) 2016-05-02 12:10	are you deaf?

(0004353) Michalm1393 (viewer) 2016-05-02 12:18 edited on: 2016-05-02 12:19	I tought you were speaking this mod is about realism, but yeah i was deaf. If its clearly visible that i'm right and everybody including you know how K-5 works, why you are keeping saying this is working good? Specially in case of B3 change its obviously required

(0004354) reyhard (administrator) 2016-05-02 12:20	hope you get cured soon because such behaviour may lead to another ban for you

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