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0002102AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2016-05-01 17:562016-05-02 12:32
ReporterMichalm1393 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeveritytweakReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Is it a wish/request?No
RHS version
Arma 3 version1.58
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0002102: T-72/T-90 vs TOW - Tweak required.
DescriptionI know how it sound, but after what you can observe from Syria, those tanks can withstand hit from TOW missles, while in the RHS both tanks can be disabled by one hit in frontal armor.
Steps To Reproduce
Additional InformationSecond option is to decrease power of TOW missle
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Attached Filesjpg 20160502105638_1.jpg (634,282) 2016-05-02 11:00
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=936&type=bug
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https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=937&type=bug
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https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=938&type=bug
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https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=939&type=bug
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https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=940&type=bug
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https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=941&type=bug
jpg 20160502105903_1.jpg (240,065) 2016-05-02 11:01
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=942&type=bug
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Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2016-05-01 17:56Michalm1393New Issue
2016-05-01 17:57Michalm1393Additional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=2658#r2658
2016-05-01 18:46reyhardStatusnew => closed
2016-05-01 18:46reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2016-05-01 18:46reyhardResolutionopen => no change required
2016-05-01 20:36Michalm1393Note Added: 0004344
2016-05-01 20:40Michalm1393Note Added: 0004345
2016-05-01 20:42Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004345bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4345#r2660
2016-05-01 20:45Michalm1393SummaryPlease increase armor of T-72B and T-90 => T-72/T-90 vs TOW - Tweak required.
2016-05-01 20:45Michalm1393Description Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=2662#r2662
2016-05-01 22:03reyhardNote Added: 0004346
2016-05-02 11:00Michalm1393Note Added: 0004348
2016-05-02 11:00Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105638_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105710_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105714_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105723_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105853_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105858_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:01Michalm1393File Added: 20160502105903_1.jpg
2016-05-02 11:03Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004348bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4348#r2664
2016-05-02 11:15Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004348bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4348#r2665
2016-05-02 11:33Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004348bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4348#r2666
2016-05-02 11:40reyhardNote Added: 0004349
2016-05-02 11:43Michalm1393Note Added: 0004350
2016-05-02 11:51Michalm1393Note Added: 0004351
2016-05-02 11:54Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004351bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4351#r2668
2016-05-02 11:54Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004351bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4351#r2669
2016-05-02 12:00Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004351bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4351#r2670
2016-05-02 12:01Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004351bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4351#r2671
2016-05-02 12:10reyhardNote Added: 0004352
2016-05-02 12:18Michalm1393Note Added: 0004353
2016-05-02 12:18Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004353bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4353#r2673
2016-05-02 12:19Michalm1393Note Edited: 0004353bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4353#r2674
2016-05-02 12:20reyhardNote Added: 0004354

Notes
(0004344)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-01 20:36   
I think change is required, as TOW can disable all T tanks with one shot in front.
(0004345)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-01 20:40   
(edited on: 2016-05-01 20:42)
http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-ze-swiata,2/zdjecie-t-90-trafionego-tow-rosyjskie-czolgi-w-syrii,630925.html [^]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rfyeR-YaJw [^]

^^^^^^^T-90

https://southfront.org/another-t-90-survives-a-missile-hit-in-syria/ [^]


^^^^T-90A

Conclusion - Kontakt 5 can stop the TOW.
(0004346)
reyhard   
2016-05-01 22:03   
rhs kontakt 5 also stop tow
(0004348)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-02 11:00   
(edited on: 2016-05-02 11:33)
It doesnt
Look at attached pictures.
In some cases i didnt destroyed tank by shoting its hull, but it was 3/9 examples (restared test). By shooting in turret i destry tank every time.
I'm uploading video from new shitty recorder, so quality wont be the best. It looks like the armor (not era) is too weak. I can destroy T-72B3 with shooting even in era on turret - it allways blows, i can do the same with T-90 in shtora emiter (in syria it was hitted above, in standard armor and it survives) and it blows, in T-90A the same and it blows. So standard armor must be harder. It Survives hit in Syria and its prooven.


Video ready :
https://youtu.be/fLHYwo8jyIY [^]
(0004349)
reyhard   
2016-05-02 11:40   
armor is ok. we won't change anything here
(0004350)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-02 11:43   
Not is isnt ok, check video once again i added subtitles.
(0004351)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-02 11:51   
(edited on: 2016-05-02 12:01)
So in Conclusion - Kontakt 5 is working somehow on T-90A (in 50% of its force), should work in T-90 (around 10% of its force) and DO NOT WORK on B3. When missle hit right next to kontakt, it have no chance to penetrate armor, beacuse kontakt is exploding. Its explosion force is neutralising threat power, so damage to armor is minimal or even there isnt any. Now only reasonable options to apply this into the arma engine are (one to choose):
- Decrease power of TOW
- Increase armor on T Tanks turrets
- Modify ERA systems, so their explosion would make penetration impossible, even if missle hitted next to it (condition of decreasing penetration force should be explosion of era)
One more time look how T-90 (1992) look after hit (note same turret on T-72B3)
http://cdn.warisboring.com/images/20160328052428/t_907.jpg [^]
(0004352)
reyhard   
2016-05-02 12:10   
are you deaf?
(0004353)
Michalm1393   
2016-05-02 12:18   
(edited on: 2016-05-02 12:19)
I tought you were speaking this mod is about realism, but yeah i was deaf. If its clearly visible that i'm right and everybody including you know how K-5 works, why you are keeping saying this is working good? Specially in case of B3 change its obviously required
(0004354)
reyhard   
2016-05-02 12:20   
hope you get cured soon because such behaviour may lead to another ban for you