0004945: all su25 cant takeoff and haven't speed AGAIN!

(0009253)
reyhard (administrator)
2019-04-05 12:51
edited on: 2019-04-05 13:07

what is so hard in using flaps? don't create tickets again - if you want discuss it because you don't agree you can still use the older ticket.

ps as I've mentioned, I can take off from malden airport after 650 meters. Takeoff distance with combat loadout is 750 meters

ps 2 from your video su-25 is definitely able to take off so I have no idea why did you kept your ticket title )))

(0009254)
topden (viewer)
2019-04-05 13:31

you are some kind of strange person. I showed you on the video that the plane takes off with a takeoff run at 1100M MINIMUM . with flaps!

Why cup su25 can take off before 550-600m, but the RHS is not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha10b71VQT8&feature=youtu.be [^]

(0009255)
reyhard (administrator)
2019-04-05 13:41

Do you think 300 meter takeoff is realistic?

It requires bit of skill but it's much more realistic - here is proof that you can take off after 600m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IIxz9Gh5i0 [^]

(0009256)
AirShark (reporter)
2019-04-05 17:24
edited on: 2019-04-05 17:25

in real life its something different the pilots use the wheel break while accelerating in order to generate the average power to take off and then when reaching high RPM speed the wheel break will disactivate automatically and the plane will start moving and easily take off....thats how they are able to take off in 550-600m but that option is not available in arma when it comes to planes ....i also dont like the way the Su-25 take off its unrealistic ...in my opinion.

(0009257)
PuFu (administrator)
2019-04-05 22:05

@topden - i do not appreciate that tone. if you cannot keep it civil, then you have no place around here

(0011939)
tonimontana0328 (reporter)
2021-10-15 18:46

"Do you think 300 meter takeoff is realistic?

It requires bit of skill but it's much more realistic - here is proof that you can take off after 600m
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IIxz9Gh5i0 [^] [^] "

So the only way to take off in 600m is to abuse arma 3 game mechanics by pulling down on the elevator putting more weight on the front wheels which circumvents the huge rhs su25 wheel friction.
The video you submitted really is proof that you can not take off within 600m normally without some strange tricks.

(0011940)
reyhard (administrator)
2021-10-15 18:58

At least people are not cheating using "some strange tricks" and taking off after 300m.

(0011948)
KajSchak (reporter)
2021-10-28 17:48

I was able to avoid the issue by not using "Throttle up" to turn the engine on but the "engine on" interaction. It did not work all the time.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2019-04-05 12:43	topden	New Issue
2019-04-05 12:51	reyhard	Note Added: 0009253
2019-04-05 12:51	reyhard	Status	new => closed
2019-04-05 12:51	reyhard	Assigned To	=> reyhard
2019-04-05 12:51	reyhard	Resolution	open => no change required
2019-04-05 12:52	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009253	View Revisions
2019-04-05 12:58	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009253	View Revisions
2019-04-05 12:59	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009253	View Revisions
2019-04-05 13:07	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009253	View Revisions
2019-04-05 13:31	topden	Note Added: 0009254
2019-04-05 13:41	reyhard	Note Added: 0009255
2019-04-05 17:24	AirShark	Note Added: 0009256
2019-04-05 17:25	AirShark	Note Edited: 0009256	View Revisions
2019-04-05 22:05	PuFu	Note Added: 0009257
2021-10-15 18:46	tonimontana0328	Note Added: 0011939
2021-10-15 18:56	reyhard	Note View State: 0011939: private
2021-10-15 18:57	reyhard	Note View State: 0011939: public
2021-10-15 18:58	reyhard	Note Added: 0011940
2021-10-15 19:20	tonimontana0328	Note Added: 0011941
2021-10-16 05:54	reyhard	Note View State: 0011941: private
2021-10-18 13:53	tonimontana0328	Note Deleted: 0011941
2021-10-28 17:48	KajSchak	Note Added: 0011948

Notes
(0009253) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-05 12:51 edited on: 2019-04-05 13:07	what is so hard in using flaps? don't create tickets again - if you want discuss it because you don't agree you can still use the older ticket. ps as I've mentioned, I can take off from malden airport after 650 meters. Takeoff distance with combat loadout is 750 meters ps 2 from your video su-25 is definitely able to take off so I have no idea why did you kept your ticket title )))

(0009254) topden (viewer) 2019-04-05 13:31	you are some kind of strange person. I showed you on the video that the plane takes off with a takeoff run at 1100M MINIMUM . with flaps! Why cup su25 can take off before 550-600m, but the RHS is not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha10b71VQT8&feature=youtu.be [^]

(0009255) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-05 13:41	Do you think 300 meter takeoff is realistic? It requires bit of skill but it's much more realistic - here is proof that you can take off after 600m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IIxz9Gh5i0 [^]

(0009256) AirShark (reporter) 2019-04-05 17:24 edited on: 2019-04-05 17:25	in real life its something different the pilots use the wheel break while accelerating in order to generate the average power to take off and then when reaching high RPM speed the wheel break will disactivate automatically and the plane will start moving and easily take off....thats how they are able to take off in 550-600m but that option is not available in arma when it comes to planes ....i also dont like the way the Su-25 take off its unrealistic ...in my opinion.

(0009257) PuFu (administrator) 2019-04-05 22:05	@topden - i do not appreciate that tone. if you cannot keep it civil, then you have no place around here

(0011939) tonimontana0328 (reporter) 2021-10-15 18:46	"Do you think 300 meter takeoff is realistic? It requires bit of skill but it's much more realistic - here is proof that you can take off after 600m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IIxz9Gh5i0 [^] [^] " So the only way to take off in 600m is to abuse arma 3 game mechanics by pulling down on the elevator putting more weight on the front wheels which circumvents the huge rhs su25 wheel friction. The video you submitted really is proof that you can not take off within 600m normally without some strange tricks.

(0011940) reyhard (administrator) 2021-10-15 18:58	At least people are not cheating using "some strange tricks" and taking off after 300m.

(0011948) KajSchak (reporter) 2021-10-28 17:48	I was able to avoid the issue by not using "Throttle up" to turn the engine on but the "engine on" interaction. It did not work all the time.

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