0000832: Can't guide Apache Hellfires using laser

(0001761)
asteliks (reporter)
2015-07-16 10:56
edited on: 2015-07-16 10:57

That is corect. AH-64 uses AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire and it is a Fire and forget missile

(0001775)
Soul_Assassin (administrator)
2015-07-17 13:54

Dont you need to lock on to the laser first?

(0001778)
astalling (reporter)
2015-07-17 14:43

I thought that by having the laser as a gunner weapon, the Hellfire would be a K variant. Otherwise,what's the point of the laser?

(0001780)
Damian (reporter)
2015-07-17 19:54

Because every AH-64D have a laser cause it can use both radar and laser guided Hellfire's, we just have right now radar guided ones.

(0001784)
asteliks (reporter)
2015-07-17 23:16
edited on: 2015-07-17 23:23

ok this will need a longer article from my side in order to explain it all but first I'll need to fix my PC. I should be done with it by tomorrow. BTW I have found a small mistake on the RHS AH-64D wiki it is said there that it uses AGM-111 Hellfire though it should be AGM-114 Hellfire.
link: http://www.rhsmods.org/w/ah64d [^]

(0001793)
asteliks (reporter)
2015-07-19 20:27

The AH-64D uses mainly the up to date armament. The D Variant was especially developed to use the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire missile, (for guidance it uses the millimeter-wave radar seeker so there is no need for a laser lock on) by adding advanced sensors such as the AN/APG-78 Longbow millimeter-wave fire-control radar thanks to that u can detect targets with the helicopter behind obstacles (e.g. terrain, trees or buildings).The Target Sight System (TSS) has been left so that u can use laser guided ordnance (other Hellfires, artillery laser guided etc.) and it's optics. It can also guide weapons from other stations (it will be improved in AH-64E with the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System).

(0001800)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-07-20 15:59

The typo in the RHS-wiki (111 -> 114) entry is now corrected.

(0001820)
asteliks (reporter)
2015-07-22 12:19

Thanks :)
BTW we can close this issue

(0002100)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-09-04 16:06

So.. closing?

(0002131)
cych (reporter)
2015-09-09 08:49
edited on: 2015-09-09 08:50

In Iraq the AH64D were intensively using laser guided Hellfire. (AGM-114K)

Having ingame a AH64D with a mixture of Longbow (agm-114L) and laser guided (agm-114K) hellfire II (8/8) would add versatility for target engagement.

Currently the only way to use missile is to have a solid-lock-on. with the laser guided version you can hit whatever you want. aim and shot.

(0002190)
Soul_Assassin (administrator)
2015-09-14 01:17

Air weapons will be completely reconsidered soon.

Notes
(0001761) asteliks (reporter) 2015-07-16 10:56 edited on: 2015-07-16 10:57	That is corect. AH-64 uses AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire and it is a Fire and forget missile

(0001775) Soul_Assassin (administrator) 2015-07-17 13:54	Dont you need to lock on to the laser first?

(0001778) astalling (reporter) 2015-07-17 14:43	I thought that by having the laser as a gunner weapon, the Hellfire would be a K variant. Otherwise,what's the point of the laser?

(0001780) Damian (reporter) 2015-07-17 19:54	Because every AH-64D have a laser cause it can use both radar and laser guided Hellfire's, we just have right now radar guided ones.

(0001784) asteliks (reporter) 2015-07-17 23:16 edited on: 2015-07-17 23:23	ok this will need a longer article from my side in order to explain it all but first I'll need to fix my PC. I should be done with it by tomorrow. BTW I have found a small mistake on the RHS AH-64D wiki it is said there that it uses AGM-111 Hellfire though it should be AGM-114 Hellfire. link: http://www.rhsmods.org/w/ah64d [^]

(0001793) asteliks (reporter) 2015-07-19 20:27	The AH-64D uses mainly the up to date armament. The D Variant was especially developed to use the AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire missile, (for guidance it uses the millimeter-wave radar seeker so there is no need for a laser lock on) by adding advanced sensors such as the AN/APG-78 Longbow millimeter-wave fire-control radar thanks to that u can detect targets with the helicopter behind obstacles (e.g. terrain, trees or buildings).The Target Sight System (TSS) has been left so that u can use laser guided ordnance (other Hellfires, artillery laser guided etc.) and it's optics. It can also guide weapons from other stations (it will be improved in AH-64E with the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System).

(0001800) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-07-20 15:59	The typo in the RHS-wiki (111 -> 114) entry is now corrected.

(0001820) asteliks (reporter) 2015-07-22 12:19	Thanks :) BTW we can close this issue

(0002100) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-09-04 16:06	So.. closing?

(0002131) cych (reporter) 2015-09-09 08:49 edited on: 2015-09-09 08:50	In Iraq the AH64D were intensively using laser guided Hellfire. (AGM-114K) Having ingame a AH64D with a mixture of Longbow (agm-114L) and laser guided (agm-114K) hellfire II (8/8) would add versatility for target engagement. Currently the only way to use missile is to have a solid-lock-on. with the laser guided version you can hit whatever you want. aim and shot.

(0002190) Soul_Assassin (administrator) 2015-09-14 01:17	Air weapons will be completely reconsidered soon.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-07-16 04:16	astalling	New Issue
2015-07-16 10:56	asteliks	Note Added: 0001761
2015-07-16 10:57	asteliks	Note Edited: 0001761	View Revisions
2015-07-17 13:54	Soul_Assassin	Note Added: 0001775
2015-07-17 13:54	Soul_Assassin	Assigned To	=> Soul_Assassin
2015-07-17 13:54	Soul_Assassin	Status	new => feedback
2015-07-17 14:43	astalling	Note Added: 0001778
2015-07-17 14:43	astalling	Status	feedback => new
2015-07-17 19:54	Damian	Note Added: 0001780
2015-07-17 23:16	asteliks	Note Added: 0001784
2015-07-17 23:21	asteliks	Note Edited: 0001784	View Revisions
2015-07-17 23:23	asteliks	Note Edited: 0001784	View Revisions
2015-07-19 20:27	asteliks	Note Added: 0001793
2015-07-20 15:59	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001800
2015-07-22 12:19	asteliks	Note Added: 0001820
2015-09-04 16:06	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0002100
2015-09-09 08:49	cych	Note Added: 0002131
2015-09-09 08:50	cych	Note Edited: 0002131	View Revisions
2015-09-09 08:50	cych	Note Edited: 0002131	View Revisions
2015-09-14 01:17	Soul_Assassin	Note Added: 0002190
2015-09-14 01:17	Soul_Assassin	Status	new => closed
2015-09-14 01:18	Soul_Assassin	Resolution	open => suspended

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