0004947: m2a3 bradley has immune to rpg7 pg-7vl, pg-7v

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(0009259) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-08 12:43	can you try firing at different places? There is nothing behind that piece of armor except turret servo mechanism and crew so nothing is going explode

(0009261) lexlaw (reporter) 2019-04-08 17:28	for destroy need 6VL firing at front for destroy engine need 3-4VL in one point at front for destroy gun need 5VL to back of the tower testing pg-7v....

(0009263) lexlaw (reporter) 2019-04-08 17:35	for destroy need 6V in one point at front for destroy gun need 4V to back of the tower

(0009264) lexlaw (reporter) 2019-04-08 17:49	i think its imbalnce versus bmp3mers_msv they must have similar armor

(0009265) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-08 18:24	It seems you are doing something wrong - single shot to engine can disable it. Try to hit ie ammo storage located below turret too.

(0009268) lexlaw (reporter) 2019-04-09 05:52	look at video i think very strange when bmp-2 explodes from one VL on random part but rhs_m2a2 without dynamic armor need to explode about 4-5vl https://youtu.be/1CrWxf1qEnw [^] another tests https://youtu.be/zWIsmJEZsHQ [^] https://youtu.be/VI6t9KyAMgY [^] sorry, but i did not understand where the ammo storage is exactly i think this differences between bmp3mers_msv and m2a3_bushiii is not realistic and unbalanced you can close issue, if its not problem for RHS differences between m2a2 and bmp2 strange too

(0009269) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-09 07:48 edited on: 2019-04-09 09:27	Why do you think difference between bmp3m (a) and Bradley with busk armor is unrealistic? One doesn't have ERA and the other one has. Here you have Bradley hitzones https://imgur.com/a/3eBqWAL [^] BMP-2 for example is driving coffin due to it's design. Troops inside are basically ridding on fuel tanks and ammunition is stored in very unsafe wayleading to frequent catastrophic destruction upon first hit. You can still survive multiple hits if rocket/shell hits non vital part though. Anyway, you can read more about it here: https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2016/05/bmp-2.html [^]

(0009270) lexlaw (reporter) 2019-04-09 09:33 edited on: 2019-04-09 09:44	bmp3 haz ERA named Kaktus. in RHS this version of bmp3 named BMP-3(Vesna-K/A)(bmp3mers_msv) on russian version they named "ДЗ" its ERA on english, and ERA seems on screenshot http://prntscr.com/n9evsg [^] lets close issue, i cant say anything new

(0009271) reyhard (administrator) 2019-04-09 09:45 edited on: 2019-04-09 09:50	It's not ERA, it's addon armour that's why it's called (A) ;) We also first thought it's ERA but it turned out it's just extra armor for empty inside to keep whole vehicle floating. Due to that, we kept old class name to achieve backward compatibility. In Russian version it's called ДБ not ДЗ btw ;) That is how for example looks ERA on BMP-3 https://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2954/thumb_620x2000/BMP3.png [^] Again, some more info on BMP-3 protection can be found here https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/2014/10/bmp-3-underappreciated-prodigy.html [^] and here you have info about that addon armour http://btvt.narod.ru/4/bmp3/bmp3.htm [^] БМП-3М-3 с комплекс активной защиты «Арена» 2003 г . Устанавливаемые при модернизации машины дополнительные броневые экраны предназначены для повышения уровня защиты бортовых элементов конструкции корпуса. Они обеспечивают защиту от бронебойной пули калибра 12,7-мм с дистанции 150 м при обстреле под любым углом, исключают образования проломов основной брони и снижают остаточное действие кумулятивной струи при попадании кумулятивных гранат. При этом установка экранов не снижает параметры плавучести машины, сохраняя их на уровне серийных машин. Другими словами, машина способна преодолевать водные преграды без специальной подготовки при волнении до 3 баллов.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2019-04-08 10:47	lexlaw	New Issue
2019-04-08 12:43	reyhard	Note Added: 0009259
2019-04-08 12:43	reyhard	Assigned To	=> reyhard
2019-04-08 12:43	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2019-04-08 17:28	lexlaw	Note Added: 0009261
2019-04-08 17:28	lexlaw	Status	feedback => new
2019-04-08 17:35	lexlaw	Note Added: 0009263
2019-04-08 17:49	lexlaw	Note Added: 0009264
2019-04-08 18:24	reyhard	Note Added: 0009265
2019-04-08 18:24	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2019-04-09 05:52	lexlaw	Note Added: 0009268
2019-04-09 05:52	lexlaw	Status	feedback => new
2019-04-09 07:48	reyhard	Note Added: 0009269
2019-04-09 07:48	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2019-04-09 09:27	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009269	View Revisions
2019-04-09 09:33	lexlaw	Note Added: 0009270
2019-04-09 09:33	lexlaw	Status	feedback => new
2019-04-09 09:44	lexlaw	Note Edited: 0009270	View Revisions
2019-04-09 09:45	reyhard	Note Added: 0009271
2019-04-09 09:45	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2019-04-09 09:46	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009271	View Revisions
2019-04-09 09:47	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009271	View Revisions
2019-04-09 09:50	reyhard	Note Edited: 0009271	View Revisions
2019-04-10 05:12	lexlaw	Resolution	open => won't fix
2019-04-10 07:22	reyhard	Status	feedback => closed
2019-04-10 07:22	reyhard	Resolution	won't fix => no change required

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