0000894: Big replacement vanilla units with RHS

(0001885)
Something757 (reporter)
2015-08-04 17:32

Agree. Maybe not replacing but the option to hide. If it is not possible to remove the vanilla content because you need specific features, at least give us the option to hide them for (editor/missian/arsenal) workings. Don't want to see more of BIS futuristic nonsense in the coming expantion of them. Just more crap in the arsenal and editor.

(0001886)
asteliks (reporter)
2015-08-05 01:51
edited on: 2015-08-05 01:53

U all do know that this is against the terms of user agreement unless RHS buys the rights to hide/remove content from ArmA 3

(0001887)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-05 10:54
edited on: 2015-08-05 10:56

Hide by the mod? It not require any rights - they dont remove content, and user doing it on his own. I was writing more about replacement - imagine campaign walked by real US army fighting with russians, walking with AKM taken from insurgents. It would be the best thing i ever seen. If Bohemia not give them any "required" permission, RHS could name their "replaced" campaign "West Wind" and not touch original one. But jeez, when i see this star war sh*t named "simulator" MAYBE ITS JUST TEMPONRARY!? Please tell yes

(0001888)
RedPhoenix (developer)
2015-08-05 11:04

Hide content is not against the rules.
You can hide them by mod making them all acope=0.

(0001889)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-05 14:40

@Red Phoenix - yeah, you would broke rules, if you will modify original content and public it without BIS permission.

(0001890)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-05 18:24

As a matter of fact you can create a config that does that, hence it would be allowed ;-)

I may do a RHS non-official config for the replacement of the vanilla units once we have enough stuff to use as vanilla counter-parts.

(0001891)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-06 12:32

Well, its great news. Finally i will not need arma 4 from BIS, beasuce simply you just made it!

(0001894)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 09:06

Hey, any news of this replacement config? Is it already available somewhere? Would be really great and motivate me for a reinstall.

(0001895)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-07 09:14

In the last two days this hasn't changed:

"I may do a RHS non-official config for the replacement of the vanilla units once we have enough stuff to use as vanilla counter-parts."

(0001897)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 10:02

Sorry my bad. Which units are missing to complete the counterparts?

Anyways, I really like that mod you created. It is a amazing piece of work and I think it deserves to be used as a replacement mod. It would be a contribution with such a impact considering realism and feeling …

(0001898)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-07 12:56

If i'm not mistaken, fighting jets, attack helicopter like Mi-28 (Mi-24 is little too old for this) and some drones with its operators.

(0001900)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 13:05

I think the Mi-24 fits perfect, due to the fact that actuallly it is the only attack helicopter of the russian army which also can carry troops. The su-25 is still on duty, so is the A-10C. I would be statisfied perfectly if I could use the escalation mod as it is as replacement. But that is only my opinion.

(0001901)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-07 13:16
edited on: 2015-08-07 13:16

Yes, but RF have Mi-24VM (MI-35), MI-28, KA-50, KA-52. Default chopper should have same features like opponent side. Off course Mi-35 would be nice as well, but now without NV its useless at night operations

(0001902)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 14:58

You are totally right. But I think it would be a good start to generate a config with the actual status of this mod. It is a lot of work to make new vehicle models from scratch, takes a lot of time and nerves. I think this could be something which could be added bit by bit.

(0001903)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-07 17:34

We lack a wheeled APC for the US side, MRAPs, rocket artillery, trucks and service trucks, patrol boats, underwater rifles, AH6 & MH6 littlebirds, etc.

Until then I'm afraid I won't even think about it.

(0001904)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 18:28
edited on: 2015-08-07 18:31

Well, wouldn't it be possible to leave the units you mantioned in the original version. For me, and I think I am speaking for many others, it would be totally fine to use a combination of BIS units and the existing RHS units. What I hate the most of the actual BIS design are the futuristic helos, planes, infantry and battle tanks.

Sry for asking, but is there a good guide how to create such a config file. Is this the process you ate talking about: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA_3_Replacement_Config_Tutorial [^]

(0001905)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-07 18:58
edited on: 2015-08-07 18:59

I do understand you. But unfortunately right now it's not a priority hence won't happen soon.

Thank you for the information, tho I'm already aware of how A3 configs work, I did a good bunch of the RHS ones :)

(0001906)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 19:06

Oh you got me wrong :) I am totally aware that you have that knowledge. The thing is that I am not very familiar with arma modding. I am spending more time on creating mods for DCS products. I can understand that this replacement issue is not on the top of your priority list, so I wanted to try it by myself creating such a file and was asking if this tutorial will help me to do that.

(0001907)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-07 19:23

Oh, look the fastest way to learn is to see how it has been done before (at least IMO).

Download my ION Services config, and unpbo it and check how the files are set:
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/182694-ion-services-inc-by-mistyronin/ [^]

(0001908)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-07 19:58

Cool! Thank you! I'll give it a try!

Best,
SW

(0001909)
Something757 (reporter)
2015-08-08 00:58

I just need an option to hide BIS nonesense from the game, for a better use of arsenal and editor using RHS.

(0001911)
Starway (reporter)
2015-08-08 12:51

Which software do I need to 'unpbo' ?
Thanks!

(0001912)
MistyRonin (administrator)
2015-08-08 12:57

You can use Mikero's tools: http://dev.withsix.com/projects/mikero-pbodll/files [^]

(0001982)
Bad Tankman (viewer)
2015-08-17 18:42

Look what i found :
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28962 [^]

(0002086)
7ftnick (reporter)
2015-09-02 17:20

The whole AAF faction is missing, and I understand there are no plans to make the independent regular army faction such as CDF/AAF. Or maybe there are ?

Notes
(0001885) Something757 (reporter) 2015-08-04 17:32	Agree. Maybe not replacing but the option to hide. If it is not possible to remove the vanilla content because you need specific features, at least give us the option to hide them for (editor/missian/arsenal) workings. Don't want to see more of BIS futuristic nonsense in the coming expantion of them. Just more crap in the arsenal and editor.

(0001886) asteliks (reporter) 2015-08-05 01:51 edited on: 2015-08-05 01:53	U all do know that this is against the terms of user agreement unless RHS buys the rights to hide/remove content from ArmA 3

(0001887) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-05 10:54 edited on: 2015-08-05 10:56	Hide by the mod? It not require any rights - they dont remove content, and user doing it on his own. I was writing more about replacement - imagine campaign walked by real US army fighting with russians, walking with AKM taken from insurgents. It would be the best thing i ever seen. If Bohemia not give them any "required" permission, RHS could name their "replaced" campaign "West Wind" and not touch original one. But jeez, when i see this star war sh*t named "simulator" MAYBE ITS JUST TEMPONRARY!? Please tell yes

(0001888) RedPhoenix (developer) 2015-08-05 11:04	Hide content is not against the rules. You can hide them by mod making them all acope=0.

(0001889) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-05 14:40	@Red Phoenix - yeah, you would broke rules, if you will modify original content and public it without BIS permission.

(0001890) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-05 18:24	As a matter of fact you can create a config that does that, hence it would be allowed ;-) I may do a RHS non-official config for the replacement of the vanilla units once we have enough stuff to use as vanilla counter-parts.

(0001891) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-06 12:32	Well, its great news. Finally i will not need arma 4 from BIS, beasuce simply you just made it!

(0001894) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 09:06	Hey, any news of this replacement config? Is it already available somewhere? Would be really great and motivate me for a reinstall.

(0001895) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-07 09:14	In the last two days this hasn't changed: "I may do a RHS non-official config for the replacement of the vanilla units once we have enough stuff to use as vanilla counter-parts."

(0001897) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 10:02	Sorry my bad. Which units are missing to complete the counterparts? Anyways, I really like that mod you created. It is a amazing piece of work and I think it deserves to be used as a replacement mod. It would be a contribution with such a impact considering realism and feeling …

(0001898) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-07 12:56	If i'm not mistaken, fighting jets, attack helicopter like Mi-28 (Mi-24 is little too old for this) and some drones with its operators.

(0001900) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 13:05	I think the Mi-24 fits perfect, due to the fact that actuallly it is the only attack helicopter of the russian army which also can carry troops. The su-25 is still on duty, so is the A-10C. I would be statisfied perfectly if I could use the escalation mod as it is as replacement. But that is only my opinion.

(0001901) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-07 13:16 edited on: 2015-08-07 13:16	Yes, but RF have Mi-24VM (MI-35), MI-28, KA-50, KA-52. Default chopper should have same features like opponent side. Off course Mi-35 would be nice as well, but now without NV its useless at night operations

(0001902) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 14:58	You are totally right. But I think it would be a good start to generate a config with the actual status of this mod. It is a lot of work to make new vehicle models from scratch, takes a lot of time and nerves. I think this could be something which could be added bit by bit.

(0001903) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-07 17:34	We lack a wheeled APC for the US side, MRAPs, rocket artillery, trucks and service trucks, patrol boats, underwater rifles, AH6 & MH6 littlebirds, etc. Until then I'm afraid I won't even think about it.

(0001904) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 18:28 edited on: 2015-08-07 18:31	Well, wouldn't it be possible to leave the units you mantioned in the original version. For me, and I think I am speaking for many others, it would be totally fine to use a combination of BIS units and the existing RHS units. What I hate the most of the actual BIS design are the futuristic helos, planes, infantry and battle tanks. Sry for asking, but is there a good guide how to create such a config file. Is this the process you ate talking about: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA_3_Replacement_Config_Tutorial [^]

(0001905) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-07 18:58 edited on: 2015-08-07 18:59	I do understand you. But unfortunately right now it's not a priority hence won't happen soon. Thank you for the information, tho I'm already aware of how A3 configs work, I did a good bunch of the RHS ones :)

(0001906) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 19:06	Oh you got me wrong :) I am totally aware that you have that knowledge. The thing is that I am not very familiar with arma modding. I am spending more time on creating mods for DCS products. I can understand that this replacement issue is not on the top of your priority list, so I wanted to try it by myself creating such a file and was asking if this tutorial will help me to do that.

(0001907) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-07 19:23	Oh, look the fastest way to learn is to see how it has been done before (at least IMO). Download my ION Services config, and unpbo it and check how the files are set: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/182694-ion-services-inc-by-mistyronin/ [^]

(0001908) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-07 19:58	Cool! Thank you! I'll give it a try! Best, SW

(0001909) Something757 (reporter) 2015-08-08 00:58	I just need an option to hide BIS nonesense from the game, for a better use of arsenal and editor using RHS.

(0001911) Starway (reporter) 2015-08-08 12:51	Which software do I need to 'unpbo' ? Thanks!

(0001912) MistyRonin (administrator) 2015-08-08 12:57	You can use Mikero's tools: http://dev.withsix.com/projects/mikero-pbodll/files [^]

(0001982) Bad Tankman (viewer) 2015-08-17 18:42	Look what i found : http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28962 [^]

(0002086) 7ftnick (reporter) 2015-09-02 17:20	The whole AAF faction is missing, and I understand there are no plans to make the independent regular army faction such as CDF/AAF. Or maybe there are ?

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-08-04 12:26	Bad Tankman	New Issue
2015-08-04 17:32	Something757	Note Added: 0001885
2015-08-05 01:51	asteliks	Note Added: 0001886
2015-08-05 01:53	asteliks	Note Edited: 0001886	View Revisions
2015-08-05 10:54	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001887
2015-08-05 10:56	Bad Tankman	Note Edited: 0001887	View Revisions
2015-08-05 11:04	RedPhoenix	Note Added: 0001888
2015-08-05 14:40	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001889
2015-08-05 18:24	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001890
2015-08-06 12:32	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001891
2015-08-07 09:06	Starway	Note Added: 0001894
2015-08-07 09:14	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001895
2015-08-07 10:02	Starway	Note Added: 0001897
2015-08-07 12:56	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001898
2015-08-07 13:05	Starway	Note Added: 0001900
2015-08-07 13:16	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001901
2015-08-07 13:16	Bad Tankman	Note Edited: 0001901	View Revisions
2015-08-07 14:58	Starway	Note Added: 0001902
2015-08-07 17:34	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001903
2015-08-07 18:28	Starway	Note Added: 0001904
2015-08-07 18:29	Starway	Note Edited: 0001904	View Revisions
2015-08-07 18:30	Starway	Note Edited: 0001904	View Revisions
2015-08-07 18:31	Starway	Note Edited: 0001904	View Revisions
2015-08-07 18:58	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001905
2015-08-07 18:58	MistyRonin	Note Edited: 0001905	View Revisions
2015-08-07 18:59	MistyRonin	Note Edited: 0001905	View Revisions
2015-08-07 19:06	Starway	Note Added: 0001906
2015-08-07 19:23	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001907
2015-08-07 19:58	Starway	Note Added: 0001908
2015-08-08 00:58	Something757	Note Added: 0001909
2015-08-08 12:51	Starway	Note Added: 0001911
2015-08-08 12:57	MistyRonin	Note Added: 0001912
2015-08-17 18:42	Bad Tankman	Note Added: 0001982
2015-09-02 17:20	7ftnick	Note Added: 0002086

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