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0006388USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2021-06-11 13:122021-08-14 10:52
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Summary0006388: 30mm x 173 PGU-13/B HEI bad vs infantry
DescriptionThe rhs_ammo_PGU13B_HE submunition of the A-10A GAU-8 is very bad vs infantry compared to similar ammotypes. Here are some examples.

rhs_ammo_PGU13B_HE : indirecthit= 4;indirecthitrange= 3;

rhs_ammo_30x113mm_M789_HEDP "indirecthit": 15,"indirecthitrange": 3,

30x165mm rhs_ammo_3uof8 "indirecthit": 33, "indirecthitrange": 4,

Maybe it would make sense to increase damage a bit?

Additional Informationhttp://almanaquemilitar.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/GAU-8A_Fact_Sheet.pdf [^]
https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/p/30x165mm-cartridges.html [^]
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Is it a wish/request?No
RHS versionStable
Arma 3 version2.04
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
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tonimontana0328 (reporter)
2021-08-13 17:46

A magainzine/ammo belt with only HE rounds would also be nice if you could add that. Currently there is only pure AP and mixed.
da12thMonkey (administrator)
2021-08-13 22:37

Combat Mix load is the standard for the A-10 IRL, and single ammo-type magazines were never an objective for our mod. Mixed is the only magazine we have intended for use on the A-10 after the release of the Jets DLC.

Pure PGU-14 API magazine is for legacy reasons only (before Arma 3 submunitions system was enhanced for Jets DLC, it was not possible for us to have a mixed magazine). It's not there for the sake of variety - we have to keep the old class for the sake of compatibility with missions made before Jets DLC changes.

IRL, the USAF used PGU-13 only loads for a short time in Libya and then Syria, but found it to be ineffective against the mix of targets that A-10s were tasked to engage (numerous un-armoured vehicles such as trucks were seen to remain operational in spite of successful PGU-13 hits).
In more recent years, it seems (according to budget documents) that the USAF has adopted a 2/1 API/HEI combat mix instead of the legacy 4/1 API/HEI combat mix to reduce the usage of Depleted Uranium, or a 2/1 TP/HEI "urban mix" with PGU-15 training munitions replacing PGU-14 API to remove DU completely.
This largely counts against us adding a HEI-only magazine to the mod.
tonimontana0328 (reporter)
2021-08-14 10:52

Ok makes sense. Thanks for the response :). What about adding an extra alternative 2/1 API/HEI. Would that be possible ?

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2021-06-11 13:12 tonimontana0328 New Issue
2021-08-13 17:46 tonimontana0328 Note Added: 0011850
2021-08-13 22:37 da12thMonkey Note Added: 0011851
2021-08-14 10:52 tonimontana0328 Note Added: 0011852

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