0005515: Kh-29ML, -29T and Kh-25ML do less than expected damage on US armor

(0010304)
reyhard (administrator)
2020-02-23 15:47

Kh25 and 29 are high explosive missiles only - they are not heats like Maverick for instance. Turned out driver thing is general Arma behavior - it happens with all vehicles. Not sure about damage variation but I guess it depends on how accurate your shot is?

(0010311)
igornoproblem (reporter)
2020-02-23 19:27

Considering Kh-29 has a roughly 300kg HE load, you can expect some pretty nasty damage when hittimg E.g. M1 ufp around the drivers hatch, ingame this does nothing but track damage most of the time.
Bradleys on the other hand have almost nothing to protect them from such a blast and should be turned into minced meat. Yet they rarely blow up, and aside from frontal hull hits, the driver survives most impacts. Again it took 1-2 x 300kg of HE inside the vehicles to barely blow it up (driver ofc survived).

(0010312)
redux (reporter)
2020-02-23 19:38
edited on: 2020-02-23 19:42

@igornoproblem, Kh-29 has 116 kg HE Load. 320 it is warhead weight

(0010313)
reyhard (administrator)
2020-02-23 20:29

Define "rarely". For me vehicle is almost always knocked out. Are you using some mods? Bradleys are heavily armed vehicles so I don't understand what do you mean by saying "nothing to protect them from such a blast"

(0010314)
igornoproblem (reporter)
2020-02-23 22:26

@redux My mistake, misread it. @reyhard Rarely as in out of more than 10 different cases only couple led to destruction of the vehicle. Vast majority of hits led to only track damage and 1-2 crew members dead. Armament remains usable almost always. Tried it with and without mods.

(0010318)
reyhard (administrator)
2020-02-24 13:20

Any specific repro? I'm not able to reproduce it on my end with M2A3

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2020-02-23 14:07	igornoproblem	New Issue
2020-02-23 15:47	reyhard	Note Added: 0010304
2020-02-23 15:47	reyhard	Assigned To	=> reyhard
2020-02-23 15:47	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2020-02-23 19:27	igornoproblem	Note Added: 0010311
2020-02-23 19:27	igornoproblem	Status	feedback => new
2020-02-23 19:38	redux	Note Added: 0010312
2020-02-23 19:41	redux	Note Edited: 0010312	View Revisions
2020-02-23 19:42	redux	Note Edited: 0010312	View Revisions
2020-02-23 20:29	reyhard	Note Added: 0010313
2020-02-23 20:29	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2020-02-23 22:26	igornoproblem	Note Added: 0010314
2020-02-23 22:26	igornoproblem	Status	feedback => new
2020-02-24 13:20	reyhard	Note Added: 0010318
2020-02-24 13:20	reyhard	Status	new => feedback
2020-04-11 19:50	reyhard	Status	feedback => closed
2020-04-11 19:50	reyhard	Resolution	open => suspended

Notes
(0010304) reyhard (administrator) 2020-02-23 15:47	Kh25 and 29 are high explosive missiles only - they are not heats like Maverick for instance. Turned out driver thing is general Arma behavior - it happens with all vehicles. Not sure about damage variation but I guess it depends on how accurate your shot is?

(0010311) igornoproblem (reporter) 2020-02-23 19:27	Considering Kh-29 has a roughly 300kg HE load, you can expect some pretty nasty damage when hittimg E.g. M1 ufp around the drivers hatch, ingame this does nothing but track damage most of the time. Bradleys on the other hand have almost nothing to protect them from such a blast and should be turned into minced meat. Yet they rarely blow up, and aside from frontal hull hits, the driver survives most impacts. Again it took 1-2 x 300kg of HE inside the vehicles to barely blow it up (driver ofc survived).

(0010312) redux (reporter) 2020-02-23 19:38 edited on: 2020-02-23 19:42	@igornoproblem, Kh-29 has 116 kg HE Load. 320 it is warhead weight

(0010313) reyhard (administrator) 2020-02-23 20:29	Define "rarely". For me vehicle is almost always knocked out. Are you using some mods? Bradleys are heavily armed vehicles so I don't understand what do you mean by saying "nothing to protect them from such a blast"

(0010314) igornoproblem (reporter) 2020-02-23 22:26	@redux My mistake, misread it. @reyhard Rarely as in out of more than 10 different cases only couple led to destruction of the vehicle. Vast majority of hits led to only track damage and 1-2 crew members dead. Armament remains usable almost always. Tried it with and without mods.

(0010318) reyhard (administrator) 2020-02-24 13:20	Any specific repro? I'm not able to reproduce it on my end with M2A3

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