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0006650USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2022-03-26 14:092022-03-28 19:39
Reportertonimontana0328 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.5.7 
Is it a wish/request?No
RHS versionStable
Arma 3 version2.08
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0006650: Ah-64 Apache M230 gun has too little penetration
DescriptionThe Apaches gun seems to only penetrate around 25mm RHA when it should have closer to 50mm penetration.

Even the Ah-1z guns penetrate more at 36mm .

https://youtu.be/RCGKUc7E8Rg [^]
Steps To Reproduce1. Place a millitary Cargo tower into the Editor and shoot the walls with the AH-64. The tower has around 30mm of armor but the apache can not penetrate it.

2. Compare it to the Ah-1z which can penetrate those walls.
3. See video
Additional Informationhttps://www.gd-ots.com/munitions/medium-caliber-ammunition/30x113mm/ [^] Lists apache gun penetration at least 25.4 mm RHA at 50degrees which is about 40mm RHA flat penetration.
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2022-03-26 14:09tonimontana0328New Issue
2022-03-26 14:13tonimontana0328Additional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=7658#r7658
2022-03-26 20:24LukegotjellyfishNote Added: 0012111
2022-03-26 20:24LukegotjellyfishNote Edited: 0012111bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=12111#r7662
2022-03-26 20:45LukegotjellyfishNote Edited: 0012111bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=12111#r7663
2022-03-27 12:36reyhardNote Added: 0012112
2022-03-27 18:37tonimontana0328Note Added: 0012113
2022-03-27 19:34reyhardNote Added: 0012114
2022-03-28 19:39reyhardStatusnew => resolved
2022-03-28 19:39reyhardFixed in Version => 0.5.7
2022-03-28 19:39reyhardResolutionopen => fixed
2022-03-28 19:39reyhardAssigned To => reyhard

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Lukegotjellyfish   
2022-03-26 20:24   
(edited on: 2022-03-26 20:45)
>25mm RHA at 50° at 500m - https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2003/gun/lam.pdf#page=8 [^]
>25mm RHA at 50°+partial penetration within 76.2mm RHA at 0° - https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2003/gun/roth.pdf#page=5 [^]
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reyhard   
2022-03-27 12:36   
"25.4 mm RHA at 50degrees which is about 40mm RHA flat penetration." it is closer to 30mm - 33.16. Are you actually calculating 40 degree angle?
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tonimontana0328   
2022-03-27 18:37   
""25.4 mm RHA at 50degrees which is about 40mm RHA flat penetration." it is closer to 30mm - 33.16. Are you actually calculating 40 degree angle? " Yes it should be 40 degrees it seems. 33mm rha would match what is presented here https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2003/gun/roth.pdf#page=10 [^] where they seem to have about 1.5 inches or 38mm of penetration.
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reyhard   
2022-03-27 19:34   
ah, I see, they are taking plate at 90 degrees as their point of reference. Some of the military materials are treating 0 degree value when plate is lying flat, not when it is standing at 90 degree from the ground