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0003976USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2018-02-11 00:322018-02-12 08:43
ReporterAebian 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Is it a wish/request?No
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Arma 3 version1.80
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0003976: Su-25 needs flight model rewamp
DescriptionHi RHS,

The Su-25 needs a flight model overhaul. The plane seems to be to heave for its engines and even a A-10A from USAF can easily follow and take out an Su-25 with just their 30mm Canon.

The Su-25 has two engines and normally is faster and more agile then the A-10 if you go for specs you will get proof. Also since the Su-25 is lighter and can't carry the same amount of weapons then an A-10.

So:
A-10 is heavy, and have lots of Bombs for ground and all that, but lacks of speed and manueverbility.

Su-25 lacks of some hartpoints and can't take the same amount of ordnance like the A-10. But has better manueverbility and more speed.

Steps To ReproduceRight now the Su-25 flies like a big whale. Heavy, not agile at all and stall is even present just after take off.

1.) Place Su-25
2.) Fly
Additional InformationTested with latest possible public RHS build (Steam autoupdates :p)
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Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2018-02-11 00:32AebianNew Issue
2018-02-11 00:32AebianNote Added: 0007438
2018-02-11 10:20reyhardNote Added: 0007439
2018-02-11 10:20reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2018-02-11 10:20reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2018-02-11 22:12AebianNote Added: 0007447
2018-02-11 22:12AebianStatusfeedback => new
2018-02-12 08:41reyhardNote Added: 0007449
2018-02-12 08:41reyhardStatusnew => closed
2018-02-12 08:41reyhardResolutionopen => no change required
2018-02-12 08:43reyhardNote Edited: 0007449bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=7449#r5082

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(0007438)
Aebian   
2018-02-11 00:32   
Sorry wasn't ment to be in USAF category, didn't had any option to change it and never set USAF as default...
(0007439)
reyhard   
2018-02-11 10:20   
"The Su-25 has two engines and normally is faster and more agile then the A-10 if you go for specs you will get proof"
please provide proof
(0007447)
Aebian   
2018-02-11 22:12   
https://i.imgur.com/WLo6u0S.png [^]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_II#Specifications_(A-10A) [^]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-25#Specifications_(Su-25/Su-25K,_late_production) [^]

A-10 can climb higher then Su-25 but the Su-25 can climb faster to its service celling then A-10.

Engines of Su-25 have a little more Pounds trust then A-10.
A-10 can load more because it weights more.
Su-25 is lighter in terms of weight then A-10

Do you need more proof?

http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/su25k/lth/ [^]

http://www.boeing.com/defense/support/a-10-wing-replacement-program/index.page#/tech-spec [^]
(0007449)
reyhard   
2018-02-12 08:41   
(edited on: 2018-02-12 08:43)
how does those values translate to flight characteristics? Do you know that there are many more factors for flight behavior like shape, wing span, etc? We can perfectly read wikipedia but those values means nothing without deeper understanding about how they translate to real life. Have you played DCS maybe? If any changes are need then it's more about reducing maneuverability of A10A instead