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0003487AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2017-09-13 17:162017-10-04 23:02
Reportercych 
Assigned To 
PrioritynoneSeverityfeatureReproducibilityalways
StatusnewResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Is it a wish/request?No
RHS version
Arma 3 version1.76
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?Yes
Which mods?ACE, CBA
Summary0003487: Tracer ammo need more visibility.
DescriptionIMO the tracer effect used for tracer magazines are way too thin and dark. we can hardly see anything.

Here is what we are supposed to see :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8766Nh-oGE [^]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hWJByUlbFY [^]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQRmHVTze-g [^]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS8GF-a2I_M [^]

there is lot more videos available out there showing that tracer ammo are much more visible than what we currently have ingame.
Steps To Reproducespawn with a rifle and tracer mag (ak/ar15/sniper). then see how hard is it to spot these tracers.
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2017-09-13 17:16cychNew Issue
2017-09-21 23:31cychDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=4387#r4387
2017-09-21 23:33cychDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=4388#r4388
2017-09-22 19:08cychDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=4389#r4389
2017-09-22 21:03reyhardNote Added: 0006516
2017-09-23 20:06cychNote Added: 0006518
2017-09-23 20:08cychNote Edited: 0006518bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6518#r4396
2017-09-23 21:39cychNote Edited: 0006518bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6518#r4397
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2017-09-24 09:55reyhardNote Added: 0006519
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2017-10-04 20:58cychNote Edited: 0006520bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6520#r4544
2017-10-04 20:59cychNote Edited: 0006520bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6520#r4545
2017-10-04 21:03cychNote Edited: 0006520bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6520#r4546
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2017-10-04 23:02cychNote Edited: 0006520bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6520#r4552

Notes
(0006516)
reyhard   
2017-09-22 21:03   
I think that there was issue that scaling tracer up caused ultra large night tracers during night. Maybe rvmats could be tweaked to be more visible but changing size is not an option
(0006518)
cych   
2017-09-23 20:06   
(edited on: 2017-10-02 22:08)
the current tracer is obviously too thin and would really need an increased "fireball effect". above all when viewed from 1st view.

i think ACE 2 had it right back in arma 2 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxD0eJWCnA4 [^]

real life tracer on minigun :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-k17OCk4b0 [^]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGE23Uykd1Y [^]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQTFbPbg_g [^]

tracer seen through NVG goggles are naturally huge, that's not a mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1pS_cQb2CI [^]

thickness, density and glowing rate. tracer trajectory must be spotted immediately even when hip shooting.

i don't know if i'm the only one to have difficulty to spot my own tracers in day time. i really need to focus to spot it. it's kinda frustrating sometimes.
(0006519)
reyhard   
2017-09-24 09:55   
They are huge without nvg - that's the main issue. I think some things were changed in Arma 2 to arma 3
(0006520)
cych   
2017-09-24 14:01   
(edited on: 2017-10-04 23:02)
I tested RHS in pair with 'Blastcore tracer A3' : https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647768227 [^]

the result is : the tracer thickness is not important, both versions get approximately the same size, the true difference is the brightness level.

if the RHS tracer mags could use a similar value by default it would be great. since lot of servers using RHS doesn't necessarily allow blastcore.