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0003256GREF[All Projects] Generalpublic2017-05-03 13:122017-05-08 15:11
ReporterJGaz-UK 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionsuspended 
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Summary0003256: Since last RHS update; Armor setting for RHS Armored vehicles might now be a bit too high?
DescriptionSince the last RHS update any APC or Tanks in missions, that have their Health/Armor % increased ( to improve AI intelligence/skill) to say 90 or 100% then the vehicle its self becomes impossible to destroy. even at a default of 56% you can fire a dozen RPG at a BMP & all you get is an engine fire! Do you think the Armor setting for RHS might be a bit too high?
Steps To ReproduceFire Metis or RPG at a tank or BMP with health/Armor set at 100%
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2017-05-03 13:12JGaz-UKNew Issue
2017-05-03 13:17JGaz-UKDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=4099#r4099
2017-05-03 13:55reyhardNote Added: 0006162
2017-05-03 13:55reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2017-05-03 13:55reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-05-03 19:14JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006163
2017-05-03 19:14JGaz-UKStatusfeedback => new
2017-05-03 19:59reyhardNote Added: 0006164
2017-05-03 19:59reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-05-03 20:07reyhardNote Edited: 0006164bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6164#r4103
2017-05-03 21:47JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006166
2017-05-03 21:47JGaz-UKStatusfeedback => new
2017-05-03 22:45JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006167
2017-05-03 22:47JGaz-UKNote Edited: 0006167bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6167#r4105
2017-05-03 22:48JGaz-UKNote Edited: 0006167bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6167#r4106
2017-05-03 22:51JGaz-UKNote Edited: 0006167bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6167#r4107
2017-05-04 09:56reyhardNote Added: 0006168
2017-05-04 09:56reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-05-04 11:54JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006169
2017-05-04 11:54JGaz-UKStatusfeedback => new
2017-05-04 12:31reyhardNote Added: 0006170
2017-05-04 12:31reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-05-04 17:01JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006171
2017-05-04 17:01JGaz-UKStatusfeedback => new
2017-05-05 15:117ftnickNote Added: 0006172
2017-05-08 13:51JGaz-UKNote Edited: 0006171bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6171#r4111
2017-05-08 13:55JGaz-UKNote Added: 0006178
2017-05-08 15:11reyhardNote Added: 0006179
2017-05-08 15:11reyhardStatusnew => closed
2017-05-08 15:11reyhardResolutionopen => suspended

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(0006162)
reyhard   
2017-05-03 13:55   
any specifics? I'm unable to reproduce it. Are you using some other mods maybe?
(0006163)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-03 19:14   
Not in the Missions with the problem, Vanilla & RHS only

Fire Metis or RPG at a RHS tank or BMP with health/Armor set at 100% from a distance of about 300 to 400m the BMP engine will catch fire, but if you continue to fire RPGs at the target you can not destroy it, i.e. get it to blow up. at 40% settings for health/armor it will.
(0006164)
reyhard   
2017-05-03 19:59   
(edited on: 2017-05-03 20:07)
where do you fire those RPGs? record video & provide .rpt file please.

also, is it happening only on dedicated server? are you using some scripting command blacklisting maybe?
(0006166)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-03 21:47   
I'll have a go, don't normally record ArmA.

No scripting commands

Off line in the editor placed a RHS empty BMP 500m on the Stratis runway, launcher ammo crates. Fired a number of different AT it it & found; unrealistically impervious to RPG & PCML perhaps?

Noticeably worse on a Dedicated server. In the editor off line the default AT DID seem to be quite effective. It could well be a Dedicated Server problem.
(0006167)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-03 22:45   
(edited on: 2017-05-03 22:51)
Made a quick Video using the editor offline with default AAF & RHS BMP.
Not sure how to upload?

Apparently it was too big 19.9mb
(0006168)
reyhard   
2017-05-04 09:56   
youtube should be fine
(0006169)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-04 11:54   
https://youtu.be/igoLggBoRac [^]
(0006170)
reyhard   
2017-05-04 12:31   
have you tried rhs launcher too?
(0006171)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-04 17:01   
(edited on: 2017-05-08 13:51)
Now tried them all & RHS launchers work normally.

So basically in order to effectively destroy RHS armour you have to only use RHS launchers, well that's rather limiting is it not?
(0006172)
7ftnick   
2017-05-05 15:11   
Was there not a compatibility addon ? Something called Real Armor Mod or something like that which applied RHS armor to vanilla units ?
(0006178)
JGaz-UK   
2017-05-08 13:55   
I've not heard of that. Don't know why RHS has it's Armor settings out of sync with the Default settings, that cant be right.
(0006179)
reyhard   
2017-05-08 15:11   
well, it was always like that due to more realistic approach we wanted to take. We didn't wanted to mess vanila content. For now, no changes are planned & you can use http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=24451 [^] this to add compatibility with vanila assets

In future it may change if BI will introduce improvements for Tank DLC