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0002904USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2017-01-18 13:072017-11-04 02:24
Reporter7ftnick 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusclosedResolutionsuspended 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.4.3.1 
Is it a wish/request?No
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Arma 3 version1.64
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0002904: AI tanks shooting helos like they have a railgun. (Reopened)
DescriptionIt is just too hard, AI tanks are more powerful than AA they just knock out helos with their main cannons.

I am reopening this as it seems that the speed of 35kph for helos is not working anymore.

I just tested flying with Ka-52 and M1A hit me with the main cannon at 140kph.
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2017-01-18 13:077ftnickNew Issue
2017-01-18 20:39reyhardNote Added: 0005719
2017-01-18 20:39reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2017-01-18 20:39reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-01-20 05:347ftnickNote Added: 0005743
2017-01-20 05:347ftnickStatusfeedback => new
2017-01-20 05:357ftnickNote Edited: 0005743bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5743#r3861
2017-01-20 06:277ftnickNote Added: 0005744
2017-01-20 06:287ftnickNote Edited: 0005744bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5744#r3863
2017-01-20 06:287ftnickNote Edited: 0005744bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5744#r3864
2017-01-20 06:297ftnickNote Edited: 0005744bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5744#r3865
2017-01-20 06:347ftnickNote Edited: 0005744bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5744#r3866
2017-01-20 06:38reyhardNote Added: 0005745
2017-01-20 06:38reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2017-01-20 09:017ftnickNote Added: 0005747
2017-01-20 09:017ftnickStatusfeedback => new
2017-01-20 09:097ftnickNote Edited: 0005747bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5747#r3868
2017-01-20 11:017ftnickNote Edited: 0005747bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=5747#r3871
2017-01-20 11:54reyhardSeveritymajor => minor
2017-01-21 10:23reyhardNote Added: 0005769
2017-01-21 10:23reyhardStatusnew => resolved
2017-01-21 10:23reyhardFixed in Version => 0.4.2.1
2017-01-21 10:23reyhardResolutionopen => fixed
2017-10-02 18:177ftnickStatusresolved => new
2017-10-02 18:177ftnickSummaryAI tanks shooting helos like they have a railgun. => AI tanks shooting helos like they have a railgun. (Reopened)
2017-10-02 18:177ftnickDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=4492#r4492
2017-10-03 08:00reyhardNote Added: 0006621
2017-10-03 08:00reyhardStatusnew => resolved
2017-10-03 08:00reyhardFixed in Version0.4.2.1 => 0.4.3.1
2017-10-03 12:467ftnickNote Added: 0006625
2017-10-29 02:327ftnickStatusresolved => new
2017-10-29 02:327ftnickResolutionfixed => reopened
2017-10-29 02:327ftnickNote Added: 0006919
2017-10-29 12:16reyhardNote Added: 0006922
2017-10-29 12:16reyhardStatusnew => closed
2017-10-29 12:16reyhardResolutionreopened => suspended
2017-11-04 02:24Mr MackNote Added: 0006960
2017-11-04 02:24Mr MackNote Edited: 0006960bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=6960#r4753

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(0005719)
reyhard   
2017-01-18 20:39   
ai is now able to change ammo according to target type so don't you mistake "railgun" with atgm?
(0005743)
7ftnick   
2017-01-20 05:34   
(edited on: 2017-01-20 05:35)
No, its HEAT rounds. Abrams do not even have atgm. Just place a helicopter in the air and 4 abrams on the ground (just make sure their guns can raise high enough to target you). And they will shoot you out of the sky with their main cannons.

I think it is related to:
^ Added airLock=1 to tank ATGMs & HEATs- AI should now engage helicopters with them
(0005744)
7ftnick   
2017-01-20 06:27   
(edited on: 2017-01-20 06:34)
Checked it again.
I tried shooting helo with ATGM from t90, it is possible, everything is okay.
With a HEAT I did not manage to hit as the round was dropping to the ground.
And abramses do not even have target tracking.
Here is a sequence:
http://i.imgur.com/wnFSPMH.jpg [^]
http://i.imgur.com/oOKmoma.jpg [^]
http://i.imgur.com/P9gHsXp.jpg [^]
http://i.imgur.com/FoUItWt.jpg [^]


Perhaps it can be tweaked if the chopper`s speed is not greater than 5kph then it can be shot with a HEAT round.
(0005745)
reyhard   
2017-01-20 06:38   
 so it's only abrams affected, not all rhs tanks, right? I think mpat rounds are missing maxLeadParam so they can take out fast flying assets. Otherwise keep in mind that MPAT have some AA capabilities due to proximity and distance fuze (which are not available for players yet)
(0005747)
7ftnick   
2017-01-20 09:01   
(edited on: 2017-01-20 11:01)
No, those tanks that have ATGM are using it.
E.G. T-80 that does not have ATGM shoots heat just like an abrams, and it has bad optics and no target lead capability. It is just not possible for a human player to shoot like that.

Man they even shoot planes out with the main cannon (although on a slow approach).
(0005769)
reyhard   
2017-01-21 10:23   
please use correct project tags!

ai will engage helicopters & airplanes with HEAT rounds when their speed bellow 35km/h.
(0006621)
reyhard   
2017-10-03 08:00   
Reduced maxLeadSpeed for heat rounds
(0006625)
7ftnick   
2017-10-03 12:46   
They shoot planes as well lol.

Is the speed back to 35kph now ?
(0006919)
7ftnick   
2017-10-29 02:32   
It is happening again, just got shot with a SABOT flying at 196kph.
(0006922)
reyhard   
2017-10-29 12:16   
happened with vanilla ai too - I will investigate that work but it might be some data change in a3 itself which caused it
(0006960)
Mr Mack   
2017-11-04 02:24   
According to Ammunition on 120mm use by m1 family. The MPAT can shoot down choppers using MPAT which allows the M1 Abrams to use the round against helicopters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinmetall_120_mm_gun#Ammunition [^]