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0002107AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2016-05-03 17:342016-05-15 19:17
ReporterBkktMkkt 
Assigned Toreyhard 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
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Summary0002107: New apfsds-t for t-80u, t-90a, t-72b3 and change name of apfsds-t "svinec"
Description1) Add new russian apfsds-t 3BM59 (DU) and 3BM60 (tungusten) for t-80u, t-72b3 and t-90a

This apfsds-t in servise since 2012 and in 2013 ministry of defence of russian federation have buy this shells.

from
Протокол заседания Совета директоров № 4 от 30.04.2013

Повестка дня:
1. Об избрании председательствующего на заседании Совета директоров Общества.
2. О заключении сделки - государственного контракта на поставку 125-мм выстрелов с бронебойно-подкалиберным снарядом «Свинец-2», которая имеет стоимость, превышающую 100 000 000 (сто миллионов) рублей.

Принятые решения:

1. Избрать Алешина Алексея Владиславовича председательствующим на заседании Совета директоров Общества.
2. Принять решение о заключении, в случае победы в закрытом аукционе, сделки государственного контракта на поставку 125-мм выстрелов с бронебойно-подкалиберным снарядом «Свинец-2» для нужд Министерства обороны Российской Федерации, с начальной (максимальной) ценой
1 809 771 790 (один миллиард восемьсот девять миллионов семьсот семьдесят одна тысяча семьсот девяносто) рублей, на условиях документации об аукционе и заявки на участие в аукционе, сформированной Обществом.

 US tanks in mode heve m829a2 and m829a3 but Russian tanks dont have apfsds with same penetration capabilities and have problems with defeating us tanks armor

http://feedback.rhsmods.org/view.php?id=1218 [^]

answer for last message from bakerman:
you will not see foto with this shells in service (like a 3bm29/3bm32/3bm48)
because this shells create for "big war" and in peaceful time shells with DU forbidden to use in russian army


2) rename apfsds-t "sviec" now it have 3bm46 index, it must be 3bm48
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2016-05-03 17:34BkktMkktNew Issue
2016-05-12 18:48DamianNote Added: 0004428
2016-05-13 00:11BkktMkktNote Added: 0004429
2016-05-13 00:25BkktMkktNote Edited: 0004429bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4429#r2818
2016-05-14 15:06BkktMkktNote Edited: 0004429bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=4429#r2822
2016-05-15 15:50reyhardNote Added: 0004434
2016-05-15 15:50reyhardStatusnew => closed
2016-05-15 15:51reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2016-05-15 15:51reyhardResolutionopen => suspended
2016-05-15 19:17BkktMkktNote Added: 0004435

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(0004428)
Damian   
2016-05-12 18:48   
3BM46 is named "Svinets", 3BM59 is "Svinets-1" and 3BM60 is "Svinets-2".

"Svinets", "Svinets-1" and "Svinets-2" are not military designations of these rounds but codenames for R&D programs.

3BM48 is projectile assembly, we use only designations for projectiles so projectile is 3BM46.

So everything is good. As for 3BM59 and 3BM60, we might thing about them.
(0004429)
BkktMkkt   
2016-05-13 00:11   
(edited on: 2016-05-14 15:06)
look on this picture

http://s4.uploads.ru/t/5zijd.png [^] - fcs of sprut-sd

bm9 bm12 bm15 bm22 bm26 bm 32 bm42 - projectile index, yea

and bm48 -index of projectile assembly? i dont think so

all indexes of apfsds on this fcs is indexes of projectiles


and here
http://uvc.omgtu.ru/images/books/uo2.pdf [^] - page 57

again 12,15,22,26,42,48

on this presentation of prof Chubasov again 32(Vant) 42(Mango) 48(Svinec)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9XFkoOBtf8qWHZaRnZSM2RIT0k/view?usp=sharing [^] -page 9
(0004434)
reyhard   
2016-05-15 15:50   
3bm59 & 3bm60 will be most likely added together with Armata. as for 3bm46 it's now renamed to 3bm48
(0004435)
BkktMkkt   
2016-05-15 19:17   
together with armata but not for armata, yes?
3bm59 and 3bm60 - shells for t80u, t90, t90a, t72b3 and some t-80bv(modernization with 1250 hp engine)
there is vakuum-1 anv vakuum-2 125mm apfsds in develop