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0001841USAF[All Projects] Generalpublic2016-02-09 15:042016-02-12 03:33
Shock 
MistyRonin 
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CBA and RHS USAF
0001841: 1PN93-1 scope's sighting makes no sense
The 1PN93-1 scope's markings are similar to that of a PSO, yet I was unable to figure out how to reliably shoot at targets beyond 300 meters. The three chevrons don't seem to be set to any particular range. I can't adjust the sighting using page up/down, so I'm completely stumped as to how this scope is supposed to work. Either this is a bug, or this scope needs some documentation. I apologize if it's not a bug and I'm just incompetent.
1) Attach the 1PN93-1 scope to an AK-74M or SVD or any other rifle.
2) Try to shoot at targets at 300-400-500-600 meters.
3) Notice that the scope's markings don't seem to mean anything.
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Issue History
2016-02-09 15:04ShockNew Issue
2016-02-09 19:507ftnickNote Added: 0003773
2016-02-10 13:26ShockNote Added: 0003780
2016-02-10 17:52Michalm1393Note Added: 0003784
2016-02-10 18:22reduxNote Added: 0003785
2016-02-10 18:24reduxNote Added: 0003786
2016-02-10 18:25reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2241
2016-02-10 18:26reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2242
2016-02-10 18:32reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2243
2016-02-10 18:33reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2244
2016-02-10 18:34reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2245
2016-02-10 18:46reduxNote Edited: 0003785bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3785#r2247
2016-02-11 09:347ftnickNote Added: 0003788
2016-02-11 11:17reduxNote Edited: 0003786bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3786#r2250
2016-02-11 15:55ShockNote Added: 0003790
2016-02-12 03:33MistyRoninNote Added: 0003793
2016-02-12 03:33MistyRoninStatusnew => closed
2016-02-12 03:33MistyRoninAssigned To => MistyRonin
2016-02-12 03:33MistyRoninResolutionopen => no change required

Notes
(0003773)
7ftnick   
2016-02-09 19:50   
The 1PN93-1 is only for AK and similar rifles not for SVD not for PK.

It is pretty straight forward the meters are what it sais on the left.
First triangle is supposed to be 400m perhaps, it is a bit offset (I would say it is 250-300m), the second however is 600m, third triangle 800m (I did not check it for 800, but it is beyond reasonable distance for AK74 and similar in arma 3)
(0003780)
Shock   
2016-02-10 13:26   
So you're telling me it's just a near-useless sight then? Why would anyone design a scope for the AK that has ranges up to 800 meters?
(0003784)
Michalm1393   
2016-02-10 17:52   
Nothing about ranges, but there are versions for PKM, SVD, etc as well, it would be nice to see them in mod :
http://gunrf.ru/rg_pricel_Magnus_eng.html [^]
(0003785)
redux   
2016-02-10 18:22   
(edited on: 2016-02-10 18:46)
This reticle from 1PN93-4.
His hunting version: http://armyman.info/amuniciya/pricely-i-pricelnye-prisposobleniya/29359-pn6k-4-pricel-nochnoy.html [^]

http://spetsnaz.su/gallery/picture.php?/2050/categories [^]

(0003786)
redux   
2016-02-10 18:24   
(edited on: 2016-02-11 11:17)
Reticle for 1PN93-1 looks like this:
http://popgun.ru/files/g/10/orig/1421943.jpg [^]
http://popgun.ru/files/g/10/orig/1421949.jpg [^]

Or this:
http://guns.allzip.org/topic/256/1533850.html [^]
http://guns.allzip.org/topic/204/1243027.html [^]

In addition: http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/209/1698156.html [^]

(0003788)
7ftnick   
2016-02-11 09:34   
@Shock Well, the ACOG sight also has a reticle for up to 800m. It starts from 400m as well (reason probably because supersonic bullet flies pretty straight for the first 300-400m). It is no doubt better than 1pn93. But it is what it is.
(0003790)
Shock   
2016-02-11 15:55   
@7ftnick The ACOG does not start at 400m at all. As this (http://stevespages.com/pdf/trijicon_ta-338-3x30.pdf [^]) document shows on p. 18, it goes from 100 to 600m.

Either way, that's off topic. If the sight works like it's supposed to work irl, then this ticket can be closed.
(0003793)
MistyRonin   
2016-02-12 03:33   
This issue makes no sense. You are free to not use the 1PN93-1 scope.

Closing it before it turns into a non nonsensical argument.