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0001376AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2015-11-15 17:162016-02-24 17:54
ReporterBad Tankman 
Assigned ToBakerman 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionno change required 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Is it a wish/request?No
RHS version
Arma 3 version1.52
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0001376: RPG Rounds detonate too much kontakt-1 era blocks
DescriptionIts definetly too much - 5 blocks is unreal. RPG round, even PG-29 can penetrate max 3 blocks when hitting ERA. Tank can be disabled by RPG-28 by shooting in turret.
Steps To ReproduceT-72B'86 + RPG - shoot.
Additional InformationHere is the effects of RPG-29 on T-72B
https://youtu.be/RFfnCIRMvNc?t=4m16s [^]
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Attached Filesjpg 2016-01-11_00001.jpg (760,895) 2016-01-11 18:14
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=823&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00002.jpg (653,973) 2016-01-11 18:14
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=824&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00003.jpg (607,326) 2016-01-11 18:15
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=825&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00004.jpg (601,937) 2016-01-11 18:15
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=826&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00009.jpg (1,180,728) 2016-01-11 18:15
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=827&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00006.jpg (440,718) 2016-01-11 18:16
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=828&type=bug
jpg 2016-01-11_00007.jpg (541,029) 2016-01-11 18:16
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=829&type=bug
jpg Divided.jpg (968,677) 2016-02-24 17:49
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=875&type=bug
jpg Actual.jpg (960,451) 2016-02-24 17:50
https://feedback.rhsmods.org/file_download.php?file_id=876&type=bug
Issue History
Date ModifiedUsernameFieldChange
2015-11-15 17:16Bad TankmanNew Issue
2015-11-15 20:23BakermanNote Added: 0002772
2015-11-15 20:23BakermanStatusnew => closed
2015-11-15 20:23BakermanAssigned To => Bakerman
2015-11-15 20:23BakermanResolutionopen => no change required
2016-01-10 18:32Michalm1393Note Added: 0003549
2016-01-10 18:33Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003549bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3549#r2071
2016-01-10 18:37reyhardNote Added: 0003550
2016-01-11 15:34Michalm1393Note Added: 0003572
2016-01-11 15:38Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003572bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3572#r2093
2016-01-11 15:45Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003572bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3572#r2094
2016-01-11 15:51reyhardNote Added: 0003573
2016-01-11 18:14Bad TankmanNote Added: 0003575
2016-01-11 18:14Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00001.jpg
2016-01-11 18:14Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00002.jpg
2016-01-11 18:15Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00003.jpg
2016-01-11 18:15Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00004.jpg
2016-01-11 18:15Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00009.jpg
2016-01-11 18:16Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2096
2016-01-11 18:16Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00006.jpg
2016-01-11 18:16Bad TankmanFile Added: 2016-01-11_00007.jpg
2016-01-11 18:17Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2097
2016-01-11 18:17Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2098
2016-01-11 18:19Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2099
2016-01-11 18:19Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2100
2016-01-11 18:20Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2101
2016-01-11 18:21Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003575bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3575#r2102
2016-01-11 19:02reyhardNote Added: 0003577
2016-01-12 12:25Bad TankmanNote Added: 0003588
2016-01-12 12:26Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003588bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3588#r2110
2016-01-12 12:47Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003588bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3588#r2111
2016-01-17 20:03Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003588bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3588#r2175
2016-01-17 20:05Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003588bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3588#r2176
2016-01-17 20:57reyhardNote Added: 0003660
2016-01-18 13:57Bad TankmanNote Added: 0003666
2016-01-18 13:58Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0003666bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3666#r2178
2016-02-24 13:28Michalm1393Note Added: 0003907
2016-02-24 13:57Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003907bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3907#r2339
2016-02-24 15:05RedPhoenixNote Added: 0003911
2016-02-24 17:40Michalm1393Note Added: 0003917
2016-02-24 17:41Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2357
2016-02-24 17:43Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2358
2016-02-24 17:44Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2359
2016-02-24 17:48Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2360
2016-02-24 17:49Michalm1393File Added: Divided.jpg
2016-02-24 17:50Michalm1393File Added: Actual.jpg
2016-02-24 17:51Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2361
2016-02-24 17:54Michalm1393Note Edited: 0003917bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=3917#r2362

Notes
(0002772)
Bakerman   
2015-11-15 20:23   
Small ERA bricks are grouped because simulating individual bricks is not feasible.
(0003549)
Michalm1393   
2016-01-10 18:32   
(edited on: 2016-01-10 18:33)
I just played rebel T-72 - one rpg took 6 to 8 era bricks. Frustrated went to editor, tested on abrams TUSK - only 2 era brick exploded. So this is possible, just create more era hitpoints.
(0003550)
reyhard   
2016-01-10 18:37   
t72 obr 85 has same amount of era hitpoints as tusk abrams.
(0003572)
Michalm1393   
2016-01-11 15:34   
(edited on: 2016-01-11 15:45)
TUSK I maybe yes, but tusk II not. It seems to be depend on projectile - detonating era on all tanks with rpg-26 from side (T-72B'85, Abrams Tusk 1, Tusk 2) seems to be very random - T-72 gets destroyed very often by RPG-26 (penetrating ERA, RHA) and everytime ERA is destroyed on turret and on hull, while on TUSK 2 only 2 era block get destroyed (hull only). Tusk I era got allways 6 blocks blow up. So era on T-72 and Tusk I need little, very little tweak. RPG-26 cannot destroy tank with era. On video i didnt destroyed it only once, - once per 5 trials.
https://youtu.be/VcspQaoHCHo [^]
(0003573)
reyhard   
2016-01-11 15:51   
tusk I has same amount of hull era hitpoints as tusk II. so your point is still invalid.
(0003575)
Bad Tankman   
2016-01-11 18:14   
(edited on: 2016-01-11 18:21)
look at attachments Tusks have 16 hitpoints on the hull side, T-72 have 3. In my opinion its definetly too few - same on front armor - reason why the bricks are so small is less bricks to change after hit. Now this reason is invisible - number of detonating bricks is too big. BTW bricks on turret should not explode when round is hitting hull, and ERA is little more vulnerable to Thermobaric rounds
(0003577)
reyhard   
2016-01-11 19:02   
you still don't get the point
(0003588)
Bad Tankman   
2016-01-12 12:25   
(edited on: 2016-01-17 20:05)
Please, can you explain? I created ticket with bug about T-72 kontact 1 era blocks (about their hitpoints number to increase). Now single shot detonate 1/3 era bricks on hull and on turret. On video i attached you can simply see in RL this is not possible.

@Reyhard - you sayed T-72 obr 1985 have same ammount of hitpoints as TUSK, then that Tusk = Tusk 2, so all tanks have same ammount of hitpoints? I see how it works, and it works wrong. On tusk 2 ERA isnt detonating on turret and hull at same time, and there is more separate hitpoinst on tusk 2 side.
(0003660)
reyhard   
2016-01-17 20:57   
read carefully what I said about tusk I & tusk II hitpoints
(0003666)
Bad Tankman   
2016-01-18 13:57   
(edited on: 2016-01-18 13:58)
t72 obr 85 has same amount of era hitpoints as tusk abrams

tusk I has same amount of hull era hitpoints as tusk II

So all of them have same ammount of era? Its not true. I mean sides of hull and number of detonated era block after single hit with small AT weapons like AT4 or RPG-26. Also ERA on turret should not explode after hitting hull thats all.
(0003907)
Michalm1393   
2016-02-24 13:28   
(edited on: 2016-02-24 13:57)
I was looking for this ticket, but didnt know its closed. Maybe someone can give us a light? While we can clearly see, the RPG 26 rocket hits the T-72 in the side and detonate ERA BOTH on hull and on turret which should not happen, then the same rocket hit TUSK II and detonate era only on hull in smaller number this isnt the same ammount of exploded era, isnt it?


More, there is not right armor for era, i can destroy T-72 in 7/10 tests when shoting side era on hull. Its happen also on T-90 with Kontakt-5 ERA which should not happen.

https://youtu.be/NkAzrt0O_R4 [^]
(0003911)
RedPhoenix   
2016-02-24 15:05   
"Small ERA bricks are grouped because simulating individual bricks is not feasible."
(0003917)
Michalm1393   
2016-02-24 17:40   
(edited on: 2016-02-24 17:54)
Yes, but its somehow feasible on TUSK II. We're not asking to simulate every brick, just to divide it to smaller hitpoints - just same area sizes as on Tusk 2. RPG cannot detonate hull + turret era at least...... If you dont want to increase hitpoints.... And still there is too much damage from RPG-26 and AT-4. My proposition and actual state is in image.