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0001220AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2015-09-28 11:322015-09-30 16:23
ReporterRyan 
Assigned ToBakerman 
PrioritynoneSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusclosedResolutionunable to reproduce 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Is it a wish/request?No
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Arma 3 version1.50
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0001220: SHTORA failure
DescriptionThe SHTORA doesnt work for me.
I tried to get attacked by normal AT Soldiers and Bradley IFV.
Never get an alert sound or the AI respond to the incoming fire.

I use ace.
Is this normal or did I forgot something?
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2015-09-28 11:32RyanNew Issue
2015-09-28 15:05BakermanNote Added: 0002451
2015-09-28 18:08Bad TankmanNote Added: 0002453
2015-09-28 18:18BakermanNote Added: 0002454
2015-09-28 18:20Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002453bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2453#r1067
2015-09-28 18:21Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002453bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2453#r1068
2015-09-28 18:21Bad TankmanNote Added: 0002455
2015-09-28 18:22Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002453bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2453#r1069
2015-09-28 18:23Bad TankmanNote Added: 0002456
2015-09-28 18:24Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002456bug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=1071
2015-09-28 18:25Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002456bug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=1072
2015-09-28 18:26BakermanNote Added: 0002457
2015-09-28 18:26Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002455bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2455#r1074
2015-09-28 18:26Bad TankmanNote Deleted: 0002456
2015-09-28 18:27Bad TankmanNote Added: 0002458
2015-09-28 18:28Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002458bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2458#r1076
2015-09-28 18:28BakermanNote Edited: 0002457bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2457#r1078
2015-09-28 18:33Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002458bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2458#r1079
2015-09-28 18:34Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002458bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2458#r1080
2015-09-28 18:37Bad TankmanNote Edited: 0002458bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=2458#r1081
2015-09-28 21:20BakermanStatusnew => closed
2015-09-28 21:20BakermanAssigned To => Bakerman
2015-09-28 21:20BakermanResolutionopen => unable to reproduce
2015-09-28 23:14RyanTag Attached: i would like to answer but it got closed...
2015-09-30 12:03RyanTag Attached: btw its still not working
2015-09-30 16:23BakermanTag Detached: i would like to answer but it got closed...
2015-09-30 16:23BakermanTag Detached: btw its still not working

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(0002451)
Bakerman   
2015-09-28 15:05   
I cannot reproduce this. Currently the system can detect vehicle laser rangefinders and SACLOS guidance beams. Was the system active and did the enemy Bradley fire a TOW at you? Also AT4s and Javelins are don't have active guidance and undetectable.
(0002453)
Bad Tankman   
2015-09-28 18:08   
(edited on: 2015-09-28 18:22)
Javelin can be detected. (should be). I cant mislead his missle with the smoke, but i understand its WIP. Javelin and tank laser range finders should be detected, javelin in TOP attack mmode cannot be misleaded by shtora, but in Direct mode it should be misleaded by the smoke (Shtora detect some thread and deploy the smoke). Problem is the Shtora should work in situation when you are tank commander, but st on gunners place (Ai is commander then, one of your teammembers). For now i need to do all manually, even if shtoora is in automatic mode.
(0002454)
Bakerman   
2015-09-28 18:18   
Javelin uses passive IR seeker for guidance, so no it cannot be detected. Could you please be more clear with the issue you're having?
(0002455)
Bad Tankman   
2015-09-28 18:21   
(edited on: 2015-09-28 18:26)
Updated ^^^. And javelin is SACLOS right? :
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3009.html [^] [^]
It must emit some laser... Can you explain this in short of the short? I'm just too old for this...
(0002457)
Bakerman   
2015-09-28 18:26   
(edited on: 2015-09-28 18:28)
I cannot reproduce your issue. AI are capable of using the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin#Seeker [^]
(0002458)
Bad Tankman   
2015-09-28 18:27   
(edited on: 2015-09-28 18:37)
Yes, they are. But if you create 3 men team (you are the commander) and you and your team get in vehicle, you are the gunner, AI on commander seat are not using it....
Thanks for fast explaination. So if i understand right, DIRECT mode missle can be blinded by the smoke?

Here is Kornet missle VS shtora nice video.
http://www.kurganmash.ru/public/createmovie.php [^]

PS. I wouldn't have a problem if the BIS would make tank control right as it should be. For now next to the jumping tanks, and CREW which cannot reverse, impossibility to quick hide behind the building, only smoke seems to be the defend against javelin thread