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0006102AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2021-01-09 12:262021-01-09 18:39
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Summary0006102: No M993 AP magazine available for the Mk17 Mod 0 and the SCAR.
DescriptionNone of the MK17 Mod 0 (USAF mod) or SCAR (RAF mod) variants have access to the M993 AP ammunition.
The round exists in the mod already, but no magazine of it for those weapons is available. It seems to be the only variant of 7.62x51 ammunition unavailable to that platform.

Considering this is a round used IRL with that platform, and that it is already present in the mod itself, we would suggest a new magazine be added for the Mk17 Mod 0.
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Is it a wish/request?Yes
RHS versionStable
Arma 3 version2.00
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
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da12thMonkey (administrator)
2021-01-09 17:09
edited on: 2021-01-09 17:09

Really M993 probably shouldn't be available for weapons other than the M24, M40 and M240

IRL the round only comes packaged as single rounds for special applications, or linked belts for the M240 - not in boxes of loose rounds to load in to magazine-fed rifles like general purpose ammunition. It's a very expensive, difficult to get hold of round.
I think one of the battle rifles is currently configured with M993 magazines available (M14 possibly), but this is in error

Harper (reporter)
2021-01-09 18:25
edited on: 2021-01-09 18:39

I might be wrong, then, but I did read of USSOCOM using 'Black tip' rounds before.
While the M993 'black tip' AP rounds were originally designed for the M24 and belt-fed MGs, as far as I know they can be used with the Mk 17 Mod 0 platform, and have seen use, especially by SF operators.

I apologize if I can't back that up, I don't remmebr those sources off the top of my head, but I do have a DoD Mk17 USer manual that states "the following ammunition is most commonly used with MK 17 MOD 0 (Table 10-2): [...] "M993 Armor Piercing".
(https://87gn.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/scarmanual.pdf [^] - page 423 - 10-5).

From what I've gathered the round is mainly used by marksmen/snipers, both in the mk 17 LB and the mk 20 SSR.

Again, I might be wrong, but in the current state the mod lacks any serious AP options for marksmen using the Mk17, the M61 AP being a bit underwhelming over 400m.

EDIT: I am sure that you are right, the round is hard to come by, but maybe those higher tier forces can still have access to some of it if needed, like said SOCOM ops? I really think it would be nice to have the option open, then whether one wants to use it or not would be up to the single user :)

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2021-01-09 12:26 Harper New Issue
2021-01-09 13:17 reyhard Severity tweak => feature
2021-01-09 17:09 da12thMonkey Note Added: 0011387
2021-01-09 17:09 da12thMonkey Note Edited: 0011387 View Revisions
2021-01-09 18:25 Harper Note Added: 0011388
2021-01-09 18:31 Harper Note Edited: 0011388 View Revisions
2021-01-09 18:39 Harper Note Edited: 0011388 View Revisions

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