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0004674AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2018-10-09 14:102018-11-30 09:46
ayy80 
reyhard 
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0004674: BMP-3 tube launched missile ATGM 9M117M1 is weak and inaccurate
The ATGM 9M117M1 of the BMP-3 takes two shots to destroy the Strider armored car.
The standard APCs take 5 and more. tl;dr it's useless.

Also, the ATGM is inaccurate when fired while BMP is in water. It flies above the aimed point.
1. Get in BMP-3
2. Shoot at stuff, measure the damage.
3. Drive into water so the BMP is floating
4. Shoot at stuff, the missile will fly higher.
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Issue History
2018-10-09 14:10ayy80New Issue
2018-10-09 15:14reyhardNote Added: 0008677
2018-10-09 15:14reyhardAssigned To => reyhard
2018-10-09 15:14reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2018-10-09 16:32ayy80Note Added: 0008679
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2018-10-10 09:01reyhardNote Added: 0008680
2018-10-10 09:01reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2018-10-13 22:46ayy80Note Added: 0008697
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2018-10-14 09:17reyhardNote Added: 0008698
2018-10-14 09:17reyhardStatusnew => feedback
2018-11-30 09:46reyhardStatusfeedback => closed
2018-11-30 09:46reyhardResolutionopen => no change required

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(0008677)
reyhard   
2018-10-09 15:14   
Have you tried firing at RHS vehicles? I can destroy other BMPs & M2 Bradleys even with single missile
(0008679)
ayy80   
2018-10-09 16:32   
rhsgref_cdf_b_btr70 also isn't much affected by the 9M117M1 missile. Would giving the missile a base damage value equal to the vanilla RPG-32 AT rocket be at all possible?
(0008680)
reyhard   
2018-10-10 09:01   
for me that missile pretty much kill everybody inside - could you check if it kills crew? There is not that much to explode inside Strider or BTR so chance for huge explosion are rather low.
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ayy80   
2018-10-13 22:46   
The missile itself contains enough explosives in its shaped charge warhead for a reasonably large explosion. IRL video footage of ATGM hits on light vehicles and the thinner APCs show them being torn apart.

To sum my complaints up: The damages vs. vanilla vehicles and lighter RHS vehicles should be looked at and improved. Trucks losing only their tires from an ATGM hit does look a bit silly.
(0008698)
reyhard   
2018-10-14 09:17   
I can agree with trucks but with APCs it's not always the case. While explosion might look strong the whole shell of vehicle might remain intact, especially in case of MRAPs, which are designed to deal with explosions from all most all sides (except top - it also vary on particularly vehicle design). Is there some specific truck you are talking about?