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0004379AFRF[All Projects] Generalpublic2018-08-16 23:192018-08-18 04:52
Reporterredux 
Assigned Toda12thMonkey 
PrioritynoneSeveritytweakReproducibilityalways
StatusresolvedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.4.7 
Is it a wish/request?Yes
RHS version
Arma 3 version1.84
Did you used any other mod when the error occurred?No
Which mods?
Summary0004379: ТР-8 имеет неточную сетку
DescriptionТР-8 ("rhs_weap_tr8") имеет неточно нарисованную прицельную сетку. Блок длиной 10 метров, располагающийся на удалении 1000 метров наблюдателя с биноклем, должен помещаться в 10 делений.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955213717025875287/E450742A9DD98445542C8639E3614F6E9C03C5BD/ [^]

Было бы неплохо повысить точность сетки у этого перископа.

На видео видно, что шкала поперёк всего поля обзора: https://youtu.be/9Y06f1Vv_NU [^]
Steps To Reproduce
Additional InformationГабариты: https://ayu.ru/watermark.php?filename=5852731b6b658.jpg [^]

http://s015.radikal.ru/i333/1507/c7/edbb3baec6c2.jpg [^]

Optical magnification: 8х

FOW: 8 degrees
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2018-08-16 23:19reduxNew Issue
2018-08-16 23:22reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5386#r5386
2018-08-16 23:22reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5387#r5387
2018-08-16 23:24reduxIs it a wish/request?No => Yes
2018-08-16 23:24reduxDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5389#r5389
2018-08-16 23:25reduxSummaryТР-8 имеет не точную сетку => ТР-8 имеет неточную сетку
2018-08-16 23:25reduxDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5390#r5390
2018-08-16 23:26reduxDescription Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5391#r5391
2018-08-17 13:26reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5394#r5394
2018-08-17 14:22reduxNote Added: 0008145
2018-08-17 15:37reduxNote Edited: 0008145bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8145#r5398
2018-08-17 15:39reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5399#r5399
2018-08-17 15:42reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5400#r5400
2018-08-17 15:45reduxNote Added: 0008157
2018-08-17 15:45reduxAdditional Information Updatedbug_revision_view_page.php?rev_id=5401#r5401
2018-08-17 15:46reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5403
2018-08-17 15:56reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5404
2018-08-17 16:01reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5405
2018-08-17 16:10reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5406
2018-08-17 16:16reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5407
2018-08-17 16:18reduxNote Edited: 0008157bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8157#r5408
2018-08-17 16:23da12thMonkeyNote Added: 0008163
2018-08-17 16:23da12thMonkeyStatusnew => resolved
2018-08-17 16:23da12thMonkeyFixed in Version => 0.4.7
2018-08-17 16:23da12thMonkeyResolutionopen => fixed
2018-08-17 16:23da12thMonkeyAssigned To => da12thMonkey
2018-08-17 17:30reduxNote Added: 0008169
2018-08-17 17:40reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5410
2018-08-17 18:11reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5413
2018-08-17 18:13reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5414
2018-08-17 18:14reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5415
2018-08-17 18:15reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5416
2018-08-17 18:23reduxNote Edited: 0008169bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8169#r5417
2018-08-17 18:54da12thMonkeyNote Added: 0008170
2018-08-17 19:46reduxNote Added: 0008175
2018-08-17 19:48reduxNote Edited: 0008175bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8175#r5419
2018-08-17 19:48reduxNote Edited: 0008175bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8175#r5420
2018-08-17 19:59da12thMonkeyNote Added: 0008177
2018-08-17 20:08reduxNote Added: 0008179
2018-08-17 20:11reduxNote Edited: 0008179bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8179#r5424
2018-08-17 20:13reduxNote Edited: 0008179bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8179#r5425
2018-08-17 20:17reduxNote Added: 0008181
2018-08-17 20:19reduxNote Edited: 0008181bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8181#r5427
2018-08-17 20:32reduxNote Edited: 0008181bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8181#r5428
2018-08-17 20:33reduxNote Edited: 0008181bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8181#r5429
2018-08-17 20:34reduxNote Edited: 0008181bug_revision_view_page.php?bugnote_id=8181#r5430
2018-08-17 23:50da12thMonkeyNote Added: 0008191
2018-08-18 04:52reduxNote Added: 0008192

Notes
(0008145)
redux   
2018-08-17 14:22   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 15:37)
Now FOV of TR-8 is 2.33 degrees instead of 8 degrees.
(0008157)
redux   
2018-08-17 15:45   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 16:18)
Vector 21: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955213717028964145/9FE70E7D2142514A57AAE009385D36D427B33ADA/ [^]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955213717029086544/17A19B28FB8D8AF9F6AA823A909874D2B64B2C65/ [^]

TR-8 IRL: http://s015.radikal.ru/i333/1507/c7/edbb3baec6c2.jpg [^]

https://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/004997/4997707.jpg [^]

https://forum-antikvariat.ru/uploads/post-533-1248374133.jpg [^]
(0008163)
da12thMonkey   
2018-08-17 16:23   
I have adjusted the scale of the reticle to measure targets in mils at 8x magnification

Monitor space limitations mean we cannot make optics that have realistically wide FOV as well as correct magnification values.
Either need to reduce the FOV boundary of the scope aperture, or reduce the magnification, to fit everything on screen.

With proper 8x magnification compared to the default view without optics, the maximum vertical FOV that Arma can show on a monitor is 2.5 degrees
(0008169)
redux   
2018-08-17 17:30   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 18:23)
Increase the FOV so that the entire horizontal scale can be seen.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189399686766002176/480038486980689935/107410_screenshots_20180817191920_1.jpg [^]
(0008170)
da12thMonkey   
2018-08-17 18:54   
We can fit the whole horizontal scale of reticle inside FOV, but the horizontal scale is only 60 mils = 3.44 degrees wide https://ayu.ru/watermark.php?filename=5852731b6b658.jpg [^] Not the full 8 degrees of the TR-8's aperture.

Reticle fills the aperture in the video https://youtu.be/9Y06f1Vv_NU?t=1m12s [^] because lens of the camera is positioned with too long "eye relief"
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/EYE-relief-1-660x392.jpg [^]

Using TR-8 properly, user would see much wider FOV - I am only saying that we cannot create periscope with full FOV and correct magnification.
(0008175)
redux   
2018-08-17 19:46   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 19:48)
Can you make a shortened FOV with save the correct magnification and all, at the horizontal scale, 60 mils in the aperture?
(0008177)
da12thMonkey   
2018-08-17 19:59   
That is how I said it will look in the next update: Full 60 mils scale and 8x magnification, but the FOV isn't as great as the real periscope.

https://i.imgur.com/qH5IfHX.png [^]

From reference images though, I can't tell if the axis of the scale is centred in the middle of the optic, or offset by 2.5 mils - it seems that IRL the scale can be rotated around the centre
(0008179)
redux   
2018-08-17 20:08   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 20:13)
http://uoor.com.ua/forum/index.php?attachments/image131576902630539-jpg.15699/ [^]

Maybe it's the camera is rotated?
(0008181)
redux   
2018-08-17 20:17   
(edited on: 2018-08-17 20:34)
https://imgur.com/qH5IfHX [^]

At this image the vertical scale is turned to left side of the semicircle instead of to right side.

The scheme not misguides: https://ayu.ru/watermark.php?filename=5852731b6b658.jpg [^]
(0008191)
da12thMonkey   
2018-08-17 23:50   
From what I seem to be able to find out, the eyepiece is able to rotate to change the direction of the scale
But the direction you show with the vertical scale turned to the left, does seem to be the most common - so now I have adjusted the texture to do it that way
(0008192)
redux   
2018-08-18 04:52   
the most common is that:
https://ayu.ru/watermark.php?filename=5852731b6b658.jpg [^]